What are the Question Numbers that you guys Protested?
DRPapi1983 said
May 13, 2015
brooklynnorth wrote:
I know this may be a stretch but is there any possibility that the answer keys varied by each person? That could explain the 3 different protest days. I understand they wont be completely different but whats to say they didnt mix up 5 questions?
Lmao,....no brother. It doesn't work like that.
brooklynnorth said
May 13, 2015
I was referring to the placement of questions not content of questions. There doesnt seem to be a method as to how they picked who goes on what date to the protest, the answer key has already been leaked which I am sure they figured would happen thus reducing the number of people who will show tommorow and thursday to protest.
brooklynnorth said
May 13, 2015
I am a few points off and just throwing some ideas out there. Forgive me.
ondeeair2321 said
May 13, 2015
ok so clearly 45 and 54 are very good to fight. everyone fight them. yup---i got duped too. and the job knows about it. Dep Comm Shea is part of the Irish Mafia that runs a damn promotional school. you dont think he knows about this hideous debacle??????? his school is going to take a mondo hit not only because of their garbage material but because nothing they taught was on the exam. the gravy train to dublin is going to be history. the little birdies on misfud s shoulder must have been one of Insano s vultures or crow s because god damn that birdie was slinging us ca-ca. pure fecal matter!!!!!!! Yano is in the witness protection program rite now construing puzzles and interactive learnign modules with cyber figurines for the next Lt exam. go and fight. yeah---i ve heard all this garbage about another exam and i dont doubt it, but they must come up with some kind of list. 241 pass last time and this time 128????? that is crazy! they gotta formulate some kind of garbage list, they always do. look at ERNIE---he was a low 60 guy and know he s overdosing on kool aid to screw us.
sig226 said
May 13, 2015
Lol. This guy is riot.
3yrWonder said
May 13, 2015
I specifically remember there was a question that was missing words in the question because when I was reading it I said to myself these guys have 6 months to write a test and they can't even proof read it. It made it difficult to understand what they were asking. It was more towards the end of the test. I don't go until Thursday so I'm not sure what number it was or if it was a research question but if it's not a research question people should protest for obvious reasons. Anyone know the question I'm talking about?
RookieScum4Life said
May 13, 2015
If I were you guys I would protest the Social Media question because there was no right answer from what I saw and there was a question on the in-basket where a certain system was down for maintenance which would prevent you from transferring objects to another location. PM me for details
Samiam32 said
May 13, 2015
Thanks for the help.
JobsAJoke said
May 13, 2015
RookieScum4Life wrote:
If I were you guys I would protest the Social Media question because there was no right answer from what I saw and there was a question on the in-basket where a certain system was down for maintenance which would prevent you from transferring objects to another location. PM me for details
The social media question was fair and had a right answer.
RookieScum4Life said
May 13, 2015
JobsAJoke wrote:
RookieScum4Life wrote:
If I were you guys I would protest the Social Media question because there was no right answer from what I saw and there was a question on the in-basket where a certain system was down for maintenance which would prevent you from transferring objects to another location. PM me for details
The social media question was fair and had a right answer.
You're wrong
fodx said
May 13, 2015
Im far enough away from a 70 that I dont have to worry about protesting or even being concerned about this fvckfest of a debalce of an exam one more day. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!
1METSFAN said
May 13, 2015
Just left the protest, I protested questions 7 and 42.
1METSFAN said
May 13, 2015
Question number 7 is going to be thrown out, when comparing the patrol guide and the packet of information all the choices were correct. They wanted the incorrect answer.
sgt2be said
May 13, 2015
106 throw out....after date of operation orders...that I know 100 percent
Team J said
May 13, 2015
3yrWonder wrote:
I specifically remember there was a question that was missing words in the question because when I was reading it I said to myself these guys have 6 months to write a test and they can't even proof read it. It made it difficult to understand what they were asking. It was more towards the end of the test. I don't go until Thursday so I'm not sure what number it was or if it was a research question but if it's not a research question people should protest for obvious reasons. Anyone know the question I'm talking about?
It wasn't a research question . it should be question 89 . Check it out when you go
Samiam32 said
May 13, 2015
How many days was the 2011 protest? I heard only 1
Day. This protest is 3 days
GottaGetOut said
May 13, 2015
Gamblor Key: 70
DCAS: 68
I am going to the protest session tomorrow and will fight tooth and nail to pick up a couple points. I am trying to prepare material to use in my arguments. Any specific suggestions on how to protest questions? I am looking at 1, 5, 7, 28, 42, 45, 54, 61, 79, 87, & 103.
Did anyone figure out #1? WTF! I am going to try to argue for a double answer
mjehangir96 said
May 13, 2015
GottaGetOut wrote:
Gamblor Key: 70
DCAS: 68
I am going to the protest session tomorrow and will fight tooth and nail to pick up a couple points. I am trying to prepare material to use in my arguments. Any specific suggestions on how to protest questions? I am looking at 1, 5, 7, 28, 42, 45, 54, 61, 79, 87, & 103.
Did anyone figure out #1? WTF! I am going to try to argue for a double answer
Question number 5, choice D is also least correct . Bring your PG with you and you'll see.
GottaGetOut said
May 13, 2015
Thank you, will do! I put D so maybe I can pick up a point there. I am bringing all my material to this protest sesson. I got nothing to lose at this point...
-- Edited by GottaGetOut on Wednesday 13th of May 2015 04:58:41 PM
mjehangir96 said
May 13, 2015
So 5 would be a double answer
DOS_EQUIS said
May 13, 2015
Regarding the protest: be sure to tell the DCAS employee you would like to submit copies of your patrol guide as evidence. They will come around and stamp it. You can then turn in your supporting documents before leaving. Spread the word.
FYI: Don't be shy during the protest. A few people in my class were working together, and it seemed ok to do so.
GottaGetOut said
May 13, 2015
I heard that some proctors allowed people to work together and other proctors did not. Hoepfully, I will get lucky and be able to work with others.
mjehangir96 said
May 13, 2015
I had to borrow someone's PG and it wasn't an issue . Also talking to each other's was allowed .... DOS EQUIS brought a great point of stamping .
GottaGetOut said
May 13, 2015
I had to borrow a friend's patrol guide for this protest since I threw mine out in disgust after that debacle of a test!
Doggieloverwoof said
May 13, 2015
GottaGetOut wrote:
Gamblor Key: 70
DCAS: 68
I am going to the protest session tomorrow and will fight tooth and nail to pick up a couple points. I am trying to prepare material to use in my arguments. Any specific suggestions on how to protest questions? I am looking at 1, 5, 7, 28, 42, 45, 54, 61, 79, 87, & 103.
Did anyone figure out #1? WTF! I am going to try to argue for a double answer
I fought #1 as a double answer. Item AA AND Item S seem to back my choice so try it! I also fought 78 because they locked us in wrong procedure..... so here's hoping!
DOS_EQUIS said
May 13, 2015
Drstylez12 wrote:
I would of protested ALOT more but I had to go into work, so I only had like 1hr 1/2 hopefully you guys could come thru!
For those working the day of the protest, DCAS provides a certificate of attendance. Produce your certificare to your respective commands and should be excused.
Bklyn net said
May 13, 2015
Dumb question. ..but who actually reviews these protest questions ? Is it the captain ?
DOS_EQUIS said
May 13, 2015
Bklyn net wrote:
Dumb question. ..but who actually reviews these protest questions ? Is it the captain ?
my buddy told me that the captain INSANO's job is done. He was there to particiapte in the writing of the exam and he will not be there for the protest portion of the exam Could anyone verify this?
Su Madre 24 said
May 13, 2015
Doggieloverwoof wrote:
GottaGetOut wrote:
Gamblor Key: 70
DCAS: 68
I am going to the protest session tomorrow and will fight tooth and nail to pick up a couple points. I am trying to prepare material to use in my arguments. Any specific suggestions on how to protest questions? I am looking at 1, 5, 7, 28, 42, 45, 54, 61, 79, 87, & 103.
Did anyone figure out #1? WTF! I am going to try to argue for a double answer
I fought #1 as a double answer. Item AA AND Item S seem to back my choice so try it! I also fought 78 because they locked us in wrong procedure..... so here's hoping!
Did you have #1 B and #78 A ??
Doggieloverwoof said
May 13, 2015
Su Madre 24 wrote:
Doggieloverwoof wrote:
GottaGetOut wrote:
Gamblor Key: 70
DCAS: 68
I am going to the protest session tomorrow and will fight tooth and nail to pick up a couple points. I am trying to prepare material to use in my arguments. Any specific suggestions on how to protest questions? I am looking at 1, 5, 7, 28, 42, 45, 54, 61, 79, 87, & 103.
Did anyone figure out #1? WTF! I am going to try to argue for a double answer
I fought #1 as a double answer. Item AA AND Item S seem to back my choice so try it! I also fought 78 because they locked us in wrong procedure..... so here's hoping!
Did you have #1 B and #78 A ??
Yes i did.
GottaGetOut said
May 13, 2015
Thank you DoggieLoverWoof. I somehow got #78 correct, but I'm crossing my fingers for you.
RookieScum4Life said
May 13, 2015
DOS_EQUIS wrote:
Bklyn net wrote:
Dumb question. ..but who actually reviews these protest questions ? Is it the captain ?
my buddy told me that the captain INSANO's job is done. He was there to particiapte in the writing of the exam and he will not be there for the protest portion of the exam Could anyone verify this?
Yes he is no longer involved in this process
bigfoot45 said
May 13, 2015
Who does decide if a question should be thrown out?
DOS_EQUIS said
May 13, 2015
bigfoot45 wrote:
Who does decide if a question should be thrown out?
For the 2011 LT exam my buddy told me it was two MOS, one which he knows is in the rank of Captain AND one DCAS employee. He also mentioned that DCAS puts up a good fight in having the least amount of questions thrown out. Could anyone verify this?
92Fot said
May 13, 2015
This was from yanosik's protest e-mail:
"This Board is composed of a lieutenant designated by the Department, a lieutenant designated by the union and a representative designated by DCAS."
Doggieloverwoof said
May 13, 2015
GottaGetOut wrote:
Thank you DoggieLoverWoof. I somehow got #78 correct, but I'm crossing my fingers for you.
Thanks. I'm sitting on a 69 so im hoping it gets thrown out lol. Good luck to u 2.
GottaGetOut said
May 13, 2015
You are right there! You are gonna make it!
HardExam said
May 13, 2015
I had 1.B / 78.A... PM if you wanna figure out how to protest 78.. I believe that may have conflicted with 207..
lloydbraun said
May 13, 2015
i protested 1,17,18,27,59,69,78,80 and 115. 118 is grammar i didnt protest but I believe theres two correct answers. I had a 69 on gamblors key and ended up with a 62. I need all the help I can get. Serenity Now!
Shakebox86 said
May 13, 2015
I went today in manhattan. They let us speak to each other and pass materials to each other. They let us work on protests together. I was even able to pass my finished protest sheet to someone across the class so they could take a look. I was able to find 3 questions that are very worth while to protest. I was the last one in the room, I protested 8 questions. #45, #89 and #106 have a very good shot. It only helps if the people going tomorrow (Thursday) go and protest the same to help everyone on the fence out. #89 is the one with the terrible grammar in the question. It basically said that a cop was asking a boss for advice because he was "several summons" in regards to an arrest. Its quite obvious they meant to say that he was served a summons in regards to an arrest. I protested and said that I could not understand the stem of the question due to poor grammar and incorrect word usage. That one is an easy one for everyone to protest to make sure it gets thrown out. #45 and #106, private message me and I can explain how those are wrong. Don't give up, a lot of people gave up in the room, that's a terrible attitude.
DRPapi1983 said
May 13, 2015
lloydbraun wrote:
i protested 1,17,18,27,59,69,78,80 and 115. 118 is grammar i didnt protest but I believe theres two correct answers. I had a 69 on gamblors key and ended up with a 62. I need all the help I can get. Serenity Now!
I am going to protest those same ones bro.
GottaGetOut said
May 13, 2015
I'm protesting #118 as a double answer. I am kicking myself for giving them that one due to fatigue but I will be quoting the New York Times Style Guide in my protest.
-- Edited by GottaGetOut on Thursday 14th of May 2015 12:17:18 AM
DatnoidS said
May 14, 2015
Fight it as much as u can. Its crazy how i remember some questions very clearly and its reseach questions. Im like noway can it be research. Like very last question.
DOS_EQUIS said
May 14, 2015
92Fot wrote:
This was from yanosik's protest e-mail:
"This Board is composed of a lieutenant designated by the Department, a lieutenant designated by the union and a representative designated by DCAS."
thanks for verifying this.. and is it safe to say after the protest session our promotions are in the hands of 3 indivdials :/ I JOKE
wishful thinking: With this new LT contract, I hope many LTs run to the pension section looking to retire before our list is generated. This way the dept and dcas feel to make a bigger list.
-- Edited by DOS_EQUIS on Thursday 14th of May 2015 03:44:11 AM
Bklyn net said
May 14, 2015
Does anyone feel strong after going to the protest that there are possible double or throwouts ?
Doggieloverwoof said
May 14, 2015
Bklyn net wrote:
Does anyone feel strong after going to the protest that there are possible double or throwouts ?
I feel good about 1 being a double answer and 78 being thrown out. here's hoping!
Doggieloverwoof said
May 14, 2015
Does anyone remember the question # for the eviction? I'm sorry for mentioning it but if i can fight it on the technicality i will.
Su Madre 24 said
May 14, 2015
Sgt2be Said that illegal eviction was #10. We discussed it via PM
-- Edited by Su Madre 24 on Thursday 14th of May 2015 04:18:19 PM
Su Madre 24 said
May 14, 2015
I think 106 will be a slam dunk throwout.
Doggie which question do u feel will be a double answer?
Doggieloverwoof said
May 14, 2015
I thought he did. just wanted to make sure since i will be protesting it by mail. Thank you.
Lmao,....no brother. It doesn't work like that.
The social media question was fair and had a right answer.
You're wrong
It wasn't a research question . it should be question 89 . Check it out when you go
Day. This protest is 3 days
Gamblor Key: 70
DCAS: 68
I am going to the protest session tomorrow and will fight tooth and nail to pick up a couple points. I am trying to prepare material to use in my arguments. Any specific suggestions on how to protest questions? I am looking at 1, 5, 7, 28, 42, 45, 54, 61, 79, 87, & 103.
Did anyone figure out #1? WTF! I am going to try to argue for a double answer
Question number 5, choice D is also least correct . Bring your PG with you and you'll see.
Thank you, will do! I put D so maybe I can pick up a point there. I am bringing all my material to this protest sesson. I got nothing to lose at this point...
-- Edited by GottaGetOut on Wednesday 13th of May 2015 04:58:41 PM
So 5 would be a double answer
FYI: Don't be shy during the protest. A few people in my class were working together, and it seemed ok to do so.
I heard that some proctors allowed people to work together and other proctors did not. Hoepfully, I will get lucky and be able to work with others.
I had to borrow a friend's patrol guide for this protest since I threw mine out in disgust after that debacle of a test!
I fought #1 as a double answer. Item AA AND Item S seem to back my choice so try it! I also fought 78 because they locked us in wrong procedure..... so here's hoping!
For those working the day of the protest, DCAS provides a certificate of attendance. Produce your certificare to your respective commands and should be excused.
my buddy told me that the captain INSANO's job is done. He was there to particiapte in the writing of the exam and he will not be there for the protest portion of the exam Could anyone verify this?
Did you have #1 B and #78 A ??
Yes i did.
Thank you DoggieLoverWoof. I somehow got #78 correct, but I'm crossing my fingers for you.
Yes he is no longer involved in this process
Who does decide if a question should be thrown out?
For the 2011 LT exam my buddy told me it was two MOS, one which he knows is in the rank of Captain AND one DCAS employee. He also mentioned that DCAS puts up a good fight in having the least amount of questions thrown out. Could anyone verify this?
"This Board is composed of a lieutenant designated by the Department, a lieutenant designated by the union and a representative designated by DCAS."
Thanks. I'm sitting on a 69 so im hoping it gets thrown out lol. Good luck to u 2.
You are right there! You are gonna make it!
I had 1.B / 78.A... PM if you wanna figure out how to protest 78.. I believe that may have conflicted with 207..
I am going to protest those same ones bro.
I'm protesting #118 as a double answer. I am kicking myself for giving them that one due to fatigue but I will be quoting the New York Times Style Guide in my protest.
-- Edited by GottaGetOut on Thursday 14th of May 2015 12:17:18 AM
thanks for verifying this.. and is it safe to say after the protest session our promotions are in the hands of 3 indivdials :/ I JOKE
wishful thinking: With this new LT contract, I hope many LTs run to the pension section looking to retire before our list is generated. This way the dept and dcas feel to make a bigger list.
-- Edited by DOS_EQUIS on Thursday 14th of May 2015 03:44:11 AM
I feel good about 1 being a double answer and 78 being thrown out. here's hoping!
Sgt2be Said that illegal eviction was #10. We discussed it via PM
-- Edited by Su Madre 24 on Thursday 14th of May 2015 04:18:19 PM
Doggie which question do u feel will be a double answer?