A post test service for all of you. - UPDATED 10/30 @ 1710 hrs
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
JDMEVO9 wrote:
Gamblor is your spread sheet updated with the 8 i had posted on the other section of the forum ? I deleted the post so let me know if you want it
Yes, I grabbed those while you had them up. Thanks.
33fornow said
Oct 21, 2013
Feel good about this I got 26 wrong matching my answer sheet to this master list. Feel a lot better then yesterday lol
kevin20872 said
Oct 21, 2013
-- Edited by kevin20872 on Monday 21st of October 2013 12:52:13 AM
JDMEVO9 said
Oct 21, 2013
Completely agree
i have best case 17 wrong from 130
worst case 27 wrong From 130
10 of them were practically split answers so not sure if I'm wrong or right we need more sheets harass people!
Its enough to ease the nervs and hopefully some "wrong" answers were experimental..
I def passed..hurray
hopefully everyone else here has good news
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
V3 is linked now. Added 5 more keys.
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
Arrow wrote:
JUST SENT YOU MY ANSWERS. BUT WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT DIDNT GET TO FINISH? I ONLY GOT TO 112. THIS EXAM SHOULD HAD BEEN 7-8 HRS TO BE FAIR.
-- Edited by Arrow on Sunday 20th of October 2013 06:22:06 PM
The time allotted seems to be the most common complaint, probably the only complaint, about this test. Unfortunately, if you didn't mark an answer, it will be considered wrong. You can hope that there was a disproportionate number of research questions in those last 18, but statistically, there is probably only 4 or so.
MJV231 said
Oct 21, 2013
so based on your program, are the scores accounting for the questions that "won't" be counted?
another thing is that we dont know if they are going to count them or not...
Wingnut said
Oct 21, 2013
These feel like Election Night results.
Question 48 is still too close to call
Fox News is now confirming that Question 72 and its 13 electoral votes will go to answer A
MJV231 said
Oct 21, 2013
LOL, question number 4 im very positive was A... that was the force figure question and im really confident i got that right....
Wingnut said
Oct 21, 2013
The force figure question is always all over the place, and EVERYONE always thinks they got it right. It's just counting people, how hard is that?!?!
MJV231 said
Oct 21, 2013
apparently hard.. lol
Nay said
Oct 21, 2013
my chance of passing increase by +2 with 39 keys =/
-- Edited by Nay on Monday 21st of October 2013 02:02:21 AM
yougonow said
Oct 21, 2013
I changed my force figures a couple times. Then I realized a couple supervisors started on the cut off time exact. I put D.. who knows. Lol
Themako1 said
Oct 21, 2013
I get a best an worst score but the possible score says "#name?" in the box any one knwo why? Im using open office
Wingnut said
Oct 21, 2013
Mako, mine didn't work 100% correctly until I used Excel. I tried it in Mac's Numbers app and it didnt come out right.
32forLife said
Oct 21, 2013
-- Edited by 32forLife on Monday 21st of October 2013 02:16:44 AM
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
Themako1 wrote:
I get a best an worst score but the possible score says "#name?" in the box any one knwo why? Im using open office
Open Office is probably not handling the array formulas correctly, which would affect that field.
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
MJV231 wrote:
so based on your program, are the scores accounting for the questions that "won't" be counted?
another thing is that we dont know if they are going to count them or not...
The Best Possible assumes that you had the 30 research questions wrong while the worst possible assumes the opposite (both unlikely). The Most Likely takes the percentage of your total wrong answers and applies the same percentage to 30 and assigning you points appropriately. Some people will be on either side of it, but mathematically, it should be accurate for most.
sumadre23 said
Oct 21, 2013
I feel bad for you and others but for the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would only answer the first 100. It makes 0 sense. If you read the directions i thought it was pretty clear that they were randomly inserted and to answer ALL QUESTIONS.
mk06 said
Oct 21, 2013
Just PM'd you my answer key. i have a mac and am using the numbers program, so a few formulas did not make the cross over from excel. mainly the color highlighting of my right/wrong/and double answers. and the number of "possible doubles-have one" and the "most likely score" both are zero right now. my highest likely says 100 and my worst case says 80.
yougonow said
Oct 21, 2013
i just plugged in my results..
doesn't look too promising as nobody knows how to grade this exam.
Best Possible: 84
Most Likely: 63
Worst Possible: 50
LOL!
Yea.. see you in two years!
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
mk06 wrote:
Just PM'd you my answer key. i have a mac and am using the numbers program, so a few formulas did not make the cross over from excel. mainly the color highlighting of my right/wrong/and double answers. and the number of "possible doubles-have one" and the "most likely score" both are zero right now. my highest likely says 100 and my worst case says 80.
Sent you a PM with your results.
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
File updated again. It now contains 27 keys and seems to be getting increasingly more accurate.
yougonow said
Oct 21, 2013
so I have to redownload and replug the answers?
Wingnut said
Oct 21, 2013
Cut and paste yougonow!
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
Jdawg wrote:
Hey gamblor did you get my PM with my answers? I have Mac also but I'm on my iPad so how can I plug these numbers in or do u do them?
-- Edited by Jdawg on Sunday 20th of October 2013 07:57:30 PM
Sent you a PM.
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
yougonow wrote:
so I have to redownload and replug the answers?
If you download the new version, just copy and paste your answers back into the new one.
yougonow said
Oct 21, 2013
Best: 83
Likely: 63
Worst: 49
See ya in two years! LOL!
seamus said
Oct 21, 2013
hopefully that last update is LESS accurate. Everytime you do an update my scores go down
Wingnut said
Oct 21, 2013
seamus wrote:
hopefully that last update is LESS accurate. Everytime you do an update my scores go down
My "worst" score has gone up over these updates. The most likely has only gone up 1.
ManHands said
Oct 21, 2013
Yeah, my worst score has gone up as well. I think so far, its pretty accurate. I still don't get a "most likely score" I just get a best and worst possible. The most likely just has "ref#" written in it and never changes.
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
Jdawg wrote:
Best possible 98 Most likely. 73 Worst possible 65
Is this good or bad? Anyone care to fill me in? Im freaking out here. I go to top pay sgt if I pass and with my seniority points and medals, that can bump me another 8 points.
-- Edited by Jdawg on Sunday 20th of October 2013 08:41:23 PM
Here are some slightly updated scores for you. Only a minor change. I would say that you are safe in the mid 70s.
Potential Score
Best Possible
98
Most Likely
74
Worst Possible
66
sumadre23 said
Oct 21, 2013
BEST POSSIBLE : 100
MOST LIKELY: 81
WORST POSSIBLE: 73
Not sure how I feel about it.
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
Updated to 31 keys.
Wingnut said
Oct 21, 2013
Jdawg...
My numbers are Best 100, Most likely 81, Worst 75.
I feel thats a good sign, but I'm not convinced.
First, it's a pretty small sample size.
I'm also less confident in what 30 questions were used for research and the statistics of those fake questions being statistically on par with the rest of the exam (meaning I'm not confident that just because I got 80% of the 100 good questions correct doesn't mean that same % applies to the fakes, therefore skewing what we are putting together here) 130 is just too small a smaple which leaves the standard deviations large.
Jdawg said
Oct 21, 2013
Thanks brother gamblor. Hope this algorithm is accurate as everyone says. Hey you created the OT track program that everyone uses? We use that in Occb all the time and it's great. Keep on keeping on. Can you update mine as you come across more updates please?
Wingnut said
Oct 21, 2013
My most likely just went up to 82... Still not convinced...
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
Wingnut wrote:
Jdawg...
My numbers are Best 100, Most likely 81, Worst 75.
I feel thats a good sign, but I'm not convinced.
First, it's a pretty small sample size.
I'm also less confident in what 30 questions were used for research and the statistics of those fake questions being statistically on par with the rest of the exam (meaning I'm not confident that just because I got 80% of the 100 good questions correct doesn't mean that same % applies to the fakes, therefore skewing what we are putting together here) 130 is just too small a smaple which leaves the standard deviations large.
A lot of what you say is right. 30 questions out of 130 is a very significant amount and makes the numbers much harder to judge. The assumption I have been working on is that the "research" questions do not differ drastically from "non-research" questions. Since they were all Patrol Guide related, and so far, no one has said that any particular set of questions jumped out at them, it's a reasonable assumption for them to not differ much in the results.
Jdawg said
Oct 21, 2013
I'm freaking out lol. I got a few years left to retire and just want to make boss. I definitely want to protest some questions like the duplicate one about jury duty, I mean wtf.
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
Jdawg wrote:
Thanks brother gamblor. Hope this algorithm is accurate as everyone says. Hey you created the OT track program that everyone uses? We use that in Occb all the time and it's great. Keep on keeping on. Can you update mine as you come across more updates please?
Thanks. I made the OT program about 8 years ago and it has slowly expanded into the monstrosity it now is, but I'm glad it gets so much usage.
Su Madre 24 said
Oct 21, 2013
sumadre23 wrote:
BEST POSSIBLE : 100
MOST LIKELY: 81
WORST POSSIBLE: 73
Not sure how I feel about it.
Baby Su Madre you got this kid!
lmao!!! :)
JudgeDredd said
Oct 21, 2013
With the update I now have 30 wrong total, so if accurate I pass no matter what.
Su Madre 24 said
Oct 21, 2013
Judge Dredd your username looks familar. Didn't u take the 2011 test ?b
32forLife said
Oct 21, 2013
it said worst possible 73 and best possible 100....any opinions? not too familiar with excel and its accuracy
JudgeDredd said
Oct 21, 2013
I did and I'm about 300 to 320 names away.
Took this exam because I've been jammed up and didn't know what was gonna happen with my situation.
Jdawg said
Oct 21, 2013
What are we at now with the updated results? @wing nut that's pretty good even though there are so many variables to determine. I suggest that, like mike Yanosik from the elite said, everyone should attend that protest session and see what you got. but also let them know how you felt about this test (the time frame given for an extra 30 questions) and focus on the duplicate question and any other test based questions that you guys can think of where you were on the fence with the answer. I have a few in my mind that should be thrown out as being too borderline with the answer choice they gave. If anyone can think of questions for us to formulate, PM me so we can go to Dcas with a list of unfair questions and hopefully get them thrown out. These promotional class teachers, from fast track to elite to rising star and the key, would have protested the questions they thought were too tricky or too misleading but since they were unable to take the test, the cannot be our voice. Mike Yanosik said everyone should try to attend, it's for our own benefit and the future of our careers...
Nay said
Oct 21, 2013
i hope that 31 possible keys from other people are legitimate one, and hope fully no one send you twice for their answer or put in twice accidentally =/.
are you still accepting answer keys?
BEST POSSIBLE :98
MOST LIKELY : #REF!
WORST POSSIBLE: 67
33fornow said
Oct 21, 2013
I am still holding steady at 26 how many names added to the master list so far if I may please inquire?
ManHands said
Oct 21, 2013
Anyone know why I get ref# in the most likely column ?
C3llab3lla134 said
Oct 21, 2013
How can I check? The spreadsheet is not opening up.
Yes, I grabbed those while you had them up. Thanks.
-- Edited by kevin20872 on Monday 21st of October 2013 12:52:13 AM
Completely agree
i have best case 17 wrong from 130
worst case 27 wrong From 130
10 of them were practically split answers so not sure if I'm wrong or right we need more sheets harass people!
Its enough to ease the nervs and hopefully some "wrong" answers were experimental..
I def passed..hurray
hopefully everyone else here has good news
The time allotted seems to be the most common complaint, probably the only complaint, about this test. Unfortunately, if you didn't mark an answer, it will be considered wrong. You can hope that there was a disproportionate number of research questions in those last 18, but statistically, there is probably only 4 or so.
so based on your program, are the scores accounting for the questions that "won't" be counted?
another thing is that we dont know if they are going to count them or not...
Question 48 is still too close to call
Fox News is now confirming that Question 72 and its 13 electoral votes will go to answer A
LOL, question number 4 im very positive was A... that was the force figure question and im really confident i got that right....
The force figure question is always all over the place, and EVERYONE always thinks they got it right. It's just counting people, how hard is that?!?!
apparently hard.. lol
my chance of passing increase by +2 with 39 keys =/
-- Edited by Nay on Monday 21st of October 2013 02:02:21 AM
-- Edited by 32forLife on Monday 21st of October 2013 02:16:44 AM
Open Office is probably not handling the array formulas correctly, which would affect that field.
The Best Possible assumes that you had the 30 research questions wrong while the worst possible assumes the opposite (both unlikely). The Most Likely takes the percentage of your total wrong answers and applies the same percentage to 30 and assigning you points appropriately. Some people will be on either side of it, but mathematically, it should be accurate for most.
I feel bad for you and others but for the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would only answer the first 100. It makes 0 sense. If you read the directions i thought it was pretty clear that they were randomly inserted and to answer ALL QUESTIONS.
doesn't look too promising as nobody knows how to grade this exam.
Best Possible: 84
Most Likely: 63
Worst Possible: 50
LOL!
Yea.. see you in two years!
Sent you a PM with your results.
Sent you a PM.
If you download the new version, just copy and paste your answers back into the new one.
Likely: 63
Worst: 49
See ya in two years! LOL!
My "worst" score has gone up over these updates. The most likely has only gone up 1.
Here are some slightly updated scores for you. Only a minor change. I would say that you are safe in the mid 70s.
BEST POSSIBLE : 100
MOST LIKELY: 81
WORST POSSIBLE: 73
Not sure how I feel about it.
My numbers are Best 100, Most likely 81, Worst 75.
I feel thats a good sign, but I'm not convinced.
First, it's a pretty small sample size.
I'm also less confident in what 30 questions were used for research and the statistics of those fake questions being statistically on par with the rest of the exam (meaning I'm not confident that just because I got 80% of the 100 good questions correct doesn't mean that same % applies to the fakes, therefore skewing what we are putting together here) 130 is just too small a smaple which leaves the standard deviations large.
A lot of what you say is right. 30 questions out of 130 is a very significant amount and makes the numbers much harder to judge. The assumption I have been working on is that the "research" questions do not differ drastically from "non-research" questions. Since they were all Patrol Guide related, and so far, no one has said that any particular set of questions jumped out at them, it's a reasonable assumption for them to not differ much in the results.
Thanks. I made the OT program about 8 years ago and it has slowly expanded into the monstrosity it now is, but I'm glad it gets so much usage.
Baby Su Madre you got this kid!
lmao!!! :)
Took this exam because I've been jammed up and didn't know what was gonna happen with my situation.
are you still accepting answer keys?
BEST POSSIBLE :98
MOST LIKELY : #REF!
WORST POSSIBLE: 67