i think this key by Bertman is really good....

I hope he is right since i am passing from it.

This was a very hard f..ing test.. It pisses me off in the command when people try to brush this test off like it was a piece of cake.. It took me 6 hrs.. I used hi lighters, pencil, pens, and crayons for the map. I needed 2 red bulls and a energy shot in order to stay aggresive and not **** can a question and read it thouroghly.. I worked hard.. then you hear cops saying this test was a joke. The key E-mailed me and said that Answer Key is not theirs........ Any computer buffs if you know how to disect it. Check the IP address against the one that the key uses.. Or anything along those lines and let us know if its legit.

PLAN-Q the problem is that you attend the key, you have to study smarter not harder, when u get promoted to sgt, attend the FAST TRACK, i'm pretty sure those who attended the FAST TRACK found the cake not to be difficult

I agree with Plan-Q. The exam was hard. It took me the entire 6 hours to finish it. I concentrated on every single question and forced myself to read slowly and pay attention to exactly what they were asking. When I got into my car on the way home I had a moment when the physical stress finally hit me and I started shaking. Some individuals might have had an easier time but I absolutely gave it my all and found the exam hard.

-- Edited by bee1242 at 23:41, 2009-02-14

BEE1242 that test sucked..... But you know what.. it was worth the struggle and i dont regret the countless hrs and loss nights of studying...... And I took both classes... Bertmans key makes the most logical sense to me.... Im not just sayin that... Every boss that I spoke to about these prelimanary keys told me that they are preety good for the purposes of ball park figures...

pLAN-q THE YKEYS ANSWER CHOICES CAME FROM THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS THIRTYTHEKEY....DURING THE COURSE I WOULD RECEIVE UPDATES FROM THEM AND AFTER THE TEST THEIR VERSION OF ANSWERS. NOW BALL PARK FIGURES ...HOW MANY SUBSTRACTION/ADDITION WE HAVE TO DO TO PINPOINT WHERE WE STAND?

I just finished comparing the DCAS final key for the 2008 exam and the combined answer key posted on this site last year. There were 10 different answers.

DCAS   Tentative
2008    Key
1 C C
2 C C
3 C C
4 A A
5 D D
6 B B
7 B B
8 C C
9 B B
10 D D
11 B B
12 D D
13 C C
14 A A
15 A A
16 B B
17 A A
18 D D
19 A A
20 C C
21 B B
22 D D
23 D D
24 C C
25 A A/B
26 B/A B
27 B A
28 A A
29 C C
30 A A
31 C A
32 D D
33 B B
34 B B/A
35 A A
36 C C
37 A A
38 D D
39 B B
40 C C
41 C C
42 D D
43 D C
44 A A
45 A A
46 D D
47 B A
48 A A
49 B B
50 C/A A/C
51 A D
52 B B
53 C C
54 D D
55 A A
56 D D
57 A A
58 B B
59 D D
60 D D
61 A A
62 D D
63 C C
64 C C
65 D D
66 B B
67 B B
68 D D
69 B B
70 A A
71 D D
72 A A
73 A A
74 C C
75 B B
76 C D
77 A A
78 C C
79 A A
80 B\D D
81 B C
82 B C
83 C C
84 B C
85 C C
86 B D
87 D D
88 D D
89 C C
90 A A
91 A A
92 D D
93 D D
94 B A/C
95 A C/A
96 B B
97 D D
98 C C
99 B B
100 C C

I think that our key will be about the same. Overall, it's pretty good.




-- Edited by bee1242 at 00:18, 2009-02-15

AND THEN DONT FORGET-THEY THREW OUT 2-3 QUESTIONS.

There was no throw out they counted either choice. I must have made a mistake I counted 15 earlier when I did it.

is it because they key answer key doesnt jive with urs)))))))))))))

hey paizano do u really expect the KEY email to say our captain so and so as he promised on the last cram course took the exam and here is his answers??)))) I tell u what though on bertmans sheet i got 80 on keys mid 70s, i pass on both of them but i only going to believe Dcas version Actually one thing arises my suspicion is that most people are getting 80s on 25 ak made by Bertman. I dont understand it..

What would be a good buffer zone from the original key by bertman...i got a 76...i know its +/- 10 points but that is contingent on getting all 10 wrong and all 10 right.   whats a good score to have a pass or fail idea?

last year i counted a 61 and ended up with a 62....it was more or les on point...i knew that i failed according to the list...

It's a little strange to me that almost everyone is passing by comparing to the answer key that is here. I truly hope that this key is 100% right. But, don't feel comfortable too much. On average 1 out of 10 people passes this test, so to compare your answers to the most popular ones is not such a good idea. Just wait till March 9. Good luck.

What makes u think everyone is passing? I would assume only the people with passing scores according to this key is actually posting.

I AM SO SURE THAT EVERYONE PASSED THIS TEST THAT I WILL BET YOU MY PATROL GUIDE INCLUDING THE INTERIM ORDERS AS A BONUS

How about everyone just wait until DCAS puts out the actual answer key.  These answer keys are put together by people who are confident they passed the test, but usually they are the ones who failed.  So a bunch of people are gonna get high hopes when they see they got a 90 from a made up answer key, but feel like a total dip**** when the DCAS answer key comes out and they actually failed.  Patience is a virtue, its like three more weeks, just wait, some of you are going to wish you had when you see what your score actually is.  Just a piece of advice so some of you dont set yourselves up for a big dissapointment.

i am not saying the answer key is perfect, but the people on this forum are the ones who dedicated hours and hours of study to pass this exam... Not the ones who took it to get a free sat off patrol.... so i wouldn't be surprised if more than just one of is passed...

just remember that a possible reason mostly everyone on here passed on the unofficial keys is because the people on here are the ones who cared..........if you took the test to get sat night off you probably wouldn't be on here, so it stands to reason most guys on here (including me hopefully - lol) are people who probably posted a passing score

I put in a lot of time. I hope I get a 70. Anything else is a bonus.

Do you guys think everyone who would make a list would get promoted? Economy is bad plus they moving very slow through current list.

THE THREADS ABOUT THE LIST DYING OUT JUST LIKE THE TEST BEING OUT ARE ALL JUST JOKES. WE WORRYING ABOUT TO MUCH. LET'S JUST TAKE IT STEP BY STEP AND MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE LIST BEFORE WE START WORRYING ABOUT THE LIST DYING OUT AND CUT OFF POINTS. A LIST HAS NOT EVEN BEEN ESTABLISHED YET

On Bertman's key made from 25 keys I get a 72 NOT inlcuding 8 double answers. So in other words the 72 that are right are ones that 20+ out of 25 people answered. Is it possible for 24 people out of 25 to answer a question the same way to have it wrong? I wanna get excited and confident but Im scared to. This waiting really sucks.

-- Edited by fodx at 03:30, 2009-02-16

i studied my ass off... my is almost the exact same as bertmans 1.c 2.d 3.b 4.b 5.b 6.d 7.d 8.c 9.b 10.a 11.a 12.a 13.d 14.b 15.d 16.b 17.d 18.c 19.b 20.d 21.b 22.c 23.a 24.b 25.a 26.c 27.a 28.b 29.c 30.d 31.b 32.d 33.a 34.a 35.b 36.a 37.d 38.d 39.c 40.b 41.b 42.a 43.d 44.a 45.b 46.a 47.c 48.d 49.c 50.a 51.d 52.d 53.d 54.a 55.b 56.c 57.a 58.b 59.c 60.d 61.d 62.a 63.c 64.c 65.b 66.a 67.d 68.c 69.c 70.a 71.b 72.a 73.c 74.a 75.a 76.c 77.b 78.d 79.c 80.c 81.a 82.c 83.c 84.d 85.b 86.d 87.b 88.c 89.b 90.c 91.a 92.d 93.a 94.b 95.d 96.c 97.d 98.a 99.b 100.a i think his is the best answer key posted right now..

Ok off of RICH-PD's I also get a 72 and its the same ones that are right. Thats a good sign

Rich-PD, what answer did you get for the gun voucher? does the silencer go on a seperate invoice and PSE or everything in one? I looked up this information, and either or can be the answer

everything goes on one invoice n pse if it doesnt fit in one pse u use bag but that wasnt specified in answer choices I believe correct answer was A

According to RICH-PD i would get low 80's. Wish that was true :)

79 by rich-pd . keeping my fingers crossed

Sig226, the fact pattern on the question stated that the silencer was not needed to make the firearm operable... according to PG if the accesory is not needed to make firearm operable seperate voucher... I put everything in one voucher, another section states that the silencer goes in one voucher attached or not...

70 on rich key...76 on bertmans key and 69 on the "fake key key"...

-- Edited by SATCOM at 18:26, 2009-02-16

hollar i think pG states to list silencers in the same voucher attached or not what u mentioned were other accessories (such as scope) whether they were attached or made the firearm operational silencer is the different story so 1.Firearm 2. Magazin 3. Round from chamber 4. rounds from other than chamber (magazine rounds) 5. SILENCER this was answer choice A. correct1

Do u know what question# that was with the silencer?

According to richpd, I get 76, same as berts.

74 on berts key 75 on rich's key

anyone remember which question was the 2oz coke question and the delivery of evidence to the borough?

I think it was question #90.

If question 90 was the cocaine question, the answer is definitely A (pct gets the #, copy to concerned Narc Dist) Also, question 37 is definitely D (advise the non-abusing parent of Safe Horizon). If Bertman fixes those two, I think it's a pretty damn good answer key.

That's exactly why I asked.... 90 is def A.... I know cause I get it wrong... Those are only 2 that are off on key... I put pxt makes report but to notify occb not narco division... Unbor? U think everything else looks alright on bert's key?

I got 90 as A as well.

in the above question was it in a building or on the street?

unborn 90 cannot be about pct copy and etc. what u r saying was the in-basket question where umos found 2 grams of controlled subs. This was an inbasket question! so look 1-15 as far as delivery concerned is 1Umos n notify boro by 0030 but deliver by 0100. i have 90 as C..dont know what it was n so far no answer key disproved it as far as 37 is definitely D

sig unborn is talking about the question of found narcotics not the question about delivering by 0030 i dont remember the whole question but it was late in the test

found narco was an in basket question. if 90 was about the delivery that its A. i doubt that cuz i knew it and i wouldnt answer it wrong. 90 is C in my list so gotta be something else.

I'm wrong about 90... everyone is right... it was in-basket... i am getting everyone mixed up... i cant remember order of questions anymore....