Shame on the SBA, corrupt to the core, vote these clowns out
No1isbetter said
Dec 18, 2023
If the deal on the table gets entry to $115-116k then just get it done. Because by step 2 & 3 we should be above the $118k mark & ever so close to the new Top pay. That comes with retro. The city can try and give us all $118k with no retro.
Truthseeker said
Dec 18, 2023
If the pay disparity doesnt affect me personally then most likely I will not give a crap either way. Given that 12 hour tours will pretty much effect majority of union, Id say your statement on the pay disparity being super critical is false. Just an fyi not one sgt in my command gives a damn about it.
SBA MIA said
Dec 18, 2023
@truthseeker.. so you have no Sgts with less than 4 years in rank in your command?? If they are ok with making 9k less than their cops then maybe they need a math refresher. We need to be put to top pay, its a running joke at work with my cops showing us their paychecks laughing at the Sgts
NauseousPBBN said
Dec 18, 2023
They dont give a damn because they dont know about it and union keeps brushing it off. If you knew you were owed 20k and understood why, youd make a big deal.
Truthseeker said
Dec 18, 2023
Sba. My point is that its a big deal to ppl on here bc if youre posting about it youre usually more involved with whats going on especially with contract issues. The majority of Sgts who heard they would get retro pay w 15 percent raises would vote for the contract ratifying it. Sorry but thats the reality of civil service workers who cant think for themselves
TransitCop said
Dec 18, 2023
I remind people every day how cops are making 10k more than most Sgts in my command so I dont believe what Truth is saying. People cant be that ignorant and not care about pay disparity. Couple more classes and we will have nearly half at top pay with barely 6 months in rank and if this is SBA plan then they better believe every single one of them will be dragged outside within next few years and replaced. Enough is enough go retire and enjoy whatever time you got left, youve scammed enough.
No1isbetter said
Dec 18, 2023
Every class that goes in, its 50-75 more Sgt at top pay & 50 Sgt hitting top pay. Were just the suckers now.
Truthseeker said
Dec 18, 2023
Read above post. Flash 10k retro in front of civil service workers and all of a sudden it aint so bad.
Fthisjob23 said
Dec 18, 2023
We are on the losing end on both with SBA and DCAS. SBA doesnt care we are making less than cops and rookie Sgts and DCAS doesnt care about publishing the results. Two highly irresponsible and inept groups of people.
Tier3scum said
Dec 18, 2023
Did those social media pages pick up any steam? Ive spoken to delegates with time on who think this administration is a bunch of clowns. But like what was said above. Theres MOS on this job, all ranks that its a miracle they can walk and chew gum at the same time. They would sign away their pensions if you flashed a large retro in their faces.
SaltyCrimeGuy said
Dec 19, 2023
Another 75 top pay Sergeants getting promoted on the 22nd
Futureauxiliary said
Dec 19, 2023
SaltyCrimeGuy wrote:
Another 75 top pay Sergeants getting promoted on the 22nd
Soon they will be the majority.
63_sniffer said
Dec 19, 2023
This is fantastic. Im gonna get my popcorn because I know no matter how members get fucked over, no one will stand up and do whats right, even if that means going against the grain. Sheep
NYM said
Dec 19, 2023
Hmm maybe it's time to start a little protest at the SBA luncheon on Friday. Maybe Vin and the boys will finally get the picture.
Here is every email for the SBA I could find, I email them weekly.
-- Edited by NYM on Tuesday 19th of December 2023 05:26:50 AM
nychelper said
Dec 19, 2023
I would totally show up to protest anyone else ?we should start a feed and see how many people would show to protest... thats an awesome idea! maybe they get the picture while they stuffing their faces w food while we outside demanding answers and being loud enough not to let em even talk in peace maybe then they get the picture
Username said
Dec 19, 2023
NYM wrote:
Hmm maybe it's time to start a little protest at the SBA luncheon on Friday. Maybe Vin and the boys will finally get the picture.
Here is every email for the SBA I could find, I email them weekly.
-- Edited by NYM on Tuesday 19th of December 2023 05:26:50 AM
With all due respect, the last time people on here said they were going to attend a meeting to show their concern for the contract, only about 10 non-delegates showed up. Unless everyone on here is a delegate, it was a pretty poor showing.
-- Edited by Username on Tuesday 19th of December 2023 07:10:19 AM
Fthisjob23 said
Dec 19, 2023
Very soon we will find ourselves in the minority with 75/80 rookie sgts going to top pay every month. SBA will not do anything. We have to make some noise in the SBA luncheon to let them know how incompetent and useless they are and they need to retire.
UncleC69 said
Dec 19, 2023
Vinny v and the gang have gabagool for brains. I counted at least 5 raffle emails and 0 contract updates since November. Now admittedly, I may not know much about the inner workings of running a corrupt adjacent union but someone should tell them to read the room. I know the board is just shocked about the lack in interest in the raffle.
With Fridays promotion, we are looking at over 500 Sgts promoted off this new list. I firmly believe these guys think they have a no show job.
Mr. Ohtani of Major League Baseballs Dodgers was able to carve out a 700 million dollar contract over night. These mooks cant figure out how to pay Sgts more than cops.
At least we can buy Sba cards online now.
Fraternally,
The unc
NYM said
Dec 21, 2023
NYM wrote:
BREAKING NEWS
THE CITY IS STOPPING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE SBA
THE CITY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO PAY THE RETRO AND NEW CONTRACT DUE TO BUDGET CUTS CITY WIDE
THE HOW MANY STOPS ACT IS GOING TO BE PASSED ON 12/20 BY THE CITY COUNCIL
COPS WILL BE MANDATED TO REPORT ANY CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC WHICH WILL RESULT IN MORE OVERTIME THEN THE CITY WANTS TO PAY
AS A RESULT OF THIS UNFORSEEN OVERTIME SND BUDGET CUTS ACROSS EVERY CITY AGENCY, THE CITY CANNOT COMMIT TO A CONTRACT WITH THE SBA
THE CITY POINTS OUT THAT THEY HAVE MADE DEALS WITH A MAJORITY OF UNIONS INCLUDING PBA, DEA, CBA, UFT, DSNY AND DC 37 AND THE SBA WILL HAVE TO WAIT THEIR TURN
WHEN THE CITY RECEIVES FUNDING FROM THE BIDEN ADMIN, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE BARGAINING TABLE
Today is December 20th and the stops act was just passed by city council, with a veto proof majority. Adams can't do anything about it now. I don't think this is looking good for our contract.
Oh boy, I cant wait for the big SBA meeting tomorrow
Taketheday said
Dec 21, 2023
HopeBoss wrote:
Oh boy, I cant wait for the big SBA meeting tomorrow
Ill Sum it up for you
Were Working on It Kid, Happy New Year
Raymond Reddington said
Dec 21, 2023
Who is excited for Norton Lifelock?
SBA MIA said
Dec 21, 2023
They put out these useless emails that are all fluff. At this point my family might actually appreciate the Hershey park tickets since we cant afford to buy them lol
Share this URL with any SGT who thinks similarly to us
-- Edited by Taketheday on Thursday 21st of December 2023 11:25:00 PM
No1isbetter said
Dec 22, 2023
Apparently theres a vote taking place for a proposed contract but its not going to pass. Unfortunately, whoever is stuck at $96k will be stuck without retro. Thanks to Eddie Scumbag Mullins, not only did SBA agree to adding an extra year to Top Pay, but also a Pay Freeze. The city is NOT going to bring us to par with the rookies going in now, they dont have to. SBA knows they have more votes each passing class but are also playing a dangerous game because the longer without a contract the more unhappy union members will be. Because of this pay freeze & unable to fix disparity, SBA thinks they can use the 12hour tour to get more money, but the city wont go for it. The reason for these tours is to give cops a better work life and more time at home so throw that out the window as well. The SBA is becoming very divided. SBA union members dont give a shit. Theyre not losing money nor are they underpaid. They sent out that email basically tell you to eat a dick or demote yourself.
Braveheart said
Dec 22, 2023
No1isbetter wrote:
Apparently theres a vote taking place for a proposed contract but its not going to pass. Unfortunately, whoever is stuck at $96k will be stuck without retro. Thanks to Eddie Scumbag Mullins, not only did SBA agree to adding an extra year to Top Pay, but also a Pay Freeze. The city is NOT going to bring us to par with the rookies going in now, they dont have to. SBA knows they have more votes each passing class but are also playing a dangerous game because the longer without a contract the more unhappy union members will be. Because of this pay freeze & unable to fix disparity, SBA thinks they can use the 12hour tour to get more money, but the city wont go for it. The reason for these tours is to give cops a better work life and more time at home so throw that out the window as well. The SBA is becoming very divided. SBA union members dont give a shit. Theyre not losing money nor are they underpaid. They sent out that email basically tell you to eat a dick or demote yourself.
What are the numbers?
PSBBUFFOON said
Dec 22, 2023
Braveheart wrote:
No1isbetter wrote:
Apparently theres a vote taking place for a proposed contract but its not going to pass. Unfortunately, whoever is stuck at $96k will be stuck without retro. Thanks to Eddie Scumbag Mullins, not only did SBA agree to adding an extra year to Top Pay, but also a Pay Freeze. The city is NOT going to bring us to par with the rookies going in now, they dont have to. SBA knows they have more votes each passing class but are also playing a dangerous game because the longer without a contract the more unhappy union members will be. Because of this pay freeze & unable to fix disparity, SBA thinks they can use the 12hour tour to get more money, but the city wont go for it. The reason for these tours is to give cops a better work life and more time at home so throw that out the window as well. The SBA is becoming very divided. SBA union members dont give a shit. Theyre not losing money nor are they underpaid. They sent out that email basically tell you to eat a dick or demote yourself.
What are the numbers?
Not a union member/delegate but I will say that the majority of the cops in my boro that are taking part in the pilot program are miserable as hell. The plan to cut OT is a complete bust as the city isn't getting the numbers they want as far as the rookies go. People are making more money now than ever, getting hit with details (MFF's) on RDO's. Don't know what the end goal is for the SBA, but I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
TicketoutofNarco said
Dec 22, 2023
The protest at Russos is going well. They keep refilling the fried calamari
No1isbetter said
Dec 22, 2023
Braveheart wrote:
No1isbetter wrote:
Apparently theres a vote taking place for a proposed contract but its not going to pass. Unfortunately, whoever is stuck at $96k will be stuck without retro. Thanks to Eddie Scumbag Mullins, not only did SBA agree to adding an extra year to Top Pay, but also a Pay Freeze. The city is NOT going to bring us to par with the rookies going in now, they dont have to. SBA knows they have more votes each passing class but are also playing a dangerous game because the longer without a contract the more unhappy union members will be. Because of this pay freeze & unable to fix disparity, SBA thinks they can use the 12hour tour to get more money, but the city wont go for it. The reason for these tours is to give cops a better work life and more time at home so throw that out the window as well. The SBA is becoming very divided. SBA union members dont give a shit. Theyre not losing money nor are they underpaid. They sent out that email basically tell you to eat a dick or demote yourself.
What are the numbers?
I do not have that information.
HopeBoss said
Dec 24, 2023
Heard SBA wont be settling anytime soon
sector7 said
Dec 25, 2023
HopeBoss wrote:
Heard SBA wont be settling anytime soon
The SBA used to be the best union and now they are horrible. They should have stopped fighting the tour nonsense months ago and just fixed the pay disparity. When are their elections?
63_sniffer said
Dec 25, 2023
Union used to be good with corrupt presidents taking union money. Now we just have idiots trying to pretend they knew nothing about it. Whats the job of the treasurer if he totally didnt notice hundreds of thousands of dollars missing???
Raymond Reddington said
Dec 25, 2023
63_sniffer wrote:
Union used to be good with corrupt presidents taking union money. Now we just have idiots trying to pretend they knew nothing about it. Whats the job of the treasurer if he totally didnt notice hundreds of thousands of dollars missing???
Why cant QAD audit them quarterly?
63_sniffer said
Dec 25, 2023
QAD is for department business. Union is a separate entity. Only New York City can investigate. In fact not even the national labors relations board can intervene. The national labors board is in charge of unions and what goes on in them and youre able to file a complaint against a union You work with HOWEVER this does NOT apply to New York City unions. Interesting fact.
63_sniffer said
Dec 25, 2023
Lets say You work for the teamsters union and You wanted to file a complaint with the national labors board, which is located in DC saying the union is doing shitty business. You can complain. But in nyc when You want to complain how a union is not doing right by their members and taking money under the table, then they cant do nothing for you. Gotta complain to clean nose Adams
Now that list is out wheres the contract negotiations at?
Taketheday said
Dec 28, 2023
We are over 100 Signatures keep it going guys spread the news get people to vote
screenshot the QR code on the petition and share to anyone in ur Sergeant Group chats make it easier for people to vote, spread it to some of these SBA contract Instagrams
-- Edited by Taketheday on Thursday 28th of December 2023 10:18:51 PM
Spanish mama said
Dec 28, 2023
Take the day, whats the word on first class date and possible amount? Since mods keep deleting 1st class threads for some reason.
-- Edited by Spanish mama on Thursday 28th of December 2023 11:10:53 PM
Rubirosa said
Dec 28, 2023
70 to 80 first class would be nice!
I am guessing big classes the first few month.
-- Edited by Rubirosa on Thursday 28th of December 2023 11:09:10 PM
Taketheday said
Dec 28, 2023
Spanish mama wrote:
Take the day, whats the word on first class date and possible amount? Since mods keep deleting 1st class threads for some reason.
-- Edited by Spanish mama on Thursday 28th of December 2023 11:10:53 PM
I know Promos are scheduled for January no clue on numbers..too early for that right now.
When I hear anything ill post
Spanish mama said
Dec 28, 2023
Much appreciated
22andOut said
Dec 29, 2023
Fuck SBA, cant wait to get promoted. No contract anytime soon
NYM said
Dec 29, 2023
Now that the list is out, please do not forget that we still have SBA elections coming up in a few years (2025/2026??). By the time elections are going to be held, we should be halfway through the list. Those that remain, do not forget what this union did to you.
1. You are not getting retro for not being at top pay, while new sergeants have been going to top pay since August. When this new contract is settled you will still be at the bottom pay scale for the new pay structure which will probably be $3,000 over step 1.
2. Don't forget they also extended top pay to 5 years in return for a shit contract.
3. Please do not forget that this union was involved in a corruption scandal with the former president stealing YOUR union dues. Nothing happened to the rest of the board. Do you really think all of them had no idea what was going on?
Make sure your voice is heard when it is time for elections if you are not promoted yet!!!!
-- Edited by NYM on Friday 29th of December 2023 04:35:58 AM
Taketheday said
Dec 29, 2023
NYM wrote:
Now that the list is out, please do not forget that we still have SBA elections coming up in a few years (2025/2026??). By the time elections are going to be held, we should be halfway through the list. Those that remain, do not forget what this union did to you.
1. You are not getting retro for not being at top pay, while new sergeants have been going to top pay since August. When this new contract is settled you will still be at the bottom pay scale for the new pay structure which will probably be $3,000 over step 1.
2. Don't forget they also extended top pay to 5 years in return for a shit contract.
3. Please do not forget that this union was involved in a corruption scandal with the former president stealing YOUR union dues. Nothing happened to the rest of the board. Do you really think all of them had no idea what was going on?
Make sure your voice is heard when it is time for elections if you are not promoted yet!!!!
-- Edited by NYM on Friday 29th of December 2023 04:35:58 AM
Over 100 Signatures already keep it going guys we do better
Hands down worst union in the city. 0 information being sent out. We have no idea whats being presented by the city and what the sba is countering with and vice versa. We have no idea when the next meeting is and how much longer were going to be making less than POs, Detectives and brand new Sergeants. Im sick of hearing cops telling me they made over 200K this year. I know I didnt make that much. This union is trash. And shame on all these Sergeants taking pictures with the clowns from the SBA at the new years detail.
SBA MIA said
Jan 3, 2024
spot on. Then they whine when there are rumors. Lay the cards out there and lets see what we are dealing with. Meanwhile there are 550 new sgts from a different test at Top Pay and will vote yes to anything. Its divide and conquer by the city and these dinosaurs in the union. At this rate I wont make more than my cops until I get the LT promotion
Soon they will be the majority.
Hmm maybe it's time to start a little protest at the SBA luncheon on Friday. Maybe Vin and the boys will finally get the picture.
Here is every email for the SBA I could find, I email them weekly.
vvallelong@sbanyc.org,
esmall@sbanyc.org,
egeary@sbanyc.org,
MPeruggia@sbanyc.org,
ABorelli@sbanyc.org,
dkipp@sbanyc.org,
jricotta@sbanyc.org,
jcollins@sbanyc.org,
wmorrissey@sbanyc.org,
sba@sbanyc.org,
healthandwelfare@sbanyc.org,
mamundsen@sbanyc.org,
acosme@sbanyc.org,
vcosme@sbanyc.org,
bmvillaruel@sbanyc.org,
snicholls@sbanyc.org,
retiree@sbanyc.org,
rmladinich@sbanyc.org
-- Edited by NYM on Tuesday 19th of December 2023 05:26:50 AM
With all due respect, the last time people on here said they were going to attend a meeting to show their concern for the contract, only about 10 non-delegates showed up. Unless everyone on here is a delegate, it was a pretty poor showing.
-- Edited by Username on Tuesday 19th of December 2023 07:10:19 AM
With Fridays promotion, we are looking at over 500 Sgts promoted off this new list. I firmly believe these guys think they have a no show job.
Mr. Ohtani of Major League Baseballs Dodgers was able to carve out a 700 million dollar contract over night. These mooks cant figure out how to pay Sgts more than cops.
At least we can buy Sba cards online now.
Fraternally,
The unc
Today is December 20th and the stops act was just passed by city council, with a veto proof majority. Adams can't do anything about it now. I don't think this is looking good for our contract.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/20/metro/nyc-council-approves-bill-forcing-cops-to-record-all-encounters-bans-solitary-confinement/
Ill Sum it up for you
Were Working on It Kid, Happy New Year
chng.it/GyprYYFP4M
Share this URL with any SGT who thinks similarly to us
-- Edited by Taketheday on Thursday 21st of December 2023 11:25:00 PM
What are the numbers?
Not a union member/delegate but I will say that the majority of the cops in my boro that are taking part in the pilot program are miserable as hell. The plan to cut OT is a complete bust as the city isn't getting the numbers they want as far as the rookies go. People are making more money now than ever, getting hit with details (MFF's) on RDO's. Don't know what the end goal is for the SBA, but I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
I do not have that information.
The SBA used to be the best union and now they are horrible. They should have stopped fighting the tour nonsense months ago and just fixed the pay disparity. When are their elections?
Why cant QAD audit them quarterly?
Share with all SGT in your commands,
We are over 100 Signatures keep it going guys spread the news get people to vote
screenshot the QR code on the petition and share to anyone in ur Sergeant Group chats make it easier for people to vote, spread it to some of these SBA contract Instagrams
-- Edited by Taketheday on Thursday 28th of December 2023 10:18:51 PM
Take the day, whats the word on first class date and possible amount? Since mods keep deleting 1st class threads for some reason.
-- Edited by Spanish mama on Thursday 28th of December 2023 11:10:53 PM
70 to 80 first class would be nice!
I am guessing big classes the first few month.
-- Edited by Rubirosa on Thursday 28th of December 2023 11:09:10 PM
I know Promos are scheduled for January no clue on numbers..too early for that right now.
When I hear anything ill post
Much appreciated
Now that the list is out, please do not forget that we still have SBA elections coming up in a few years (2025/2026??). By the time elections are going to be held, we should be halfway through the list. Those that remain, do not forget what this union did to you.
1. You are not getting retro for not being at top pay, while new sergeants have been going to top pay since August. When this new contract is settled you will still be at the bottom pay scale for the new pay structure which will probably be $3,000 over step 1.
2. Don't forget they also extended top pay to 5 years in return for a shit contract.
3. Please do not forget that this union was involved in a corruption scandal with the former president stealing YOUR union dues. Nothing happened to the rest of the board. Do you really think all of them had no idea what was going on?
Make sure your voice is heard when it is time for elections if you are not promoted yet!!!!
-- Edited by NYM on Friday 29th of December 2023 04:35:58 AM
Over 100 Signatures already keep it going guys we do better
https://chng.it/GyprYYFP4M
Keep it going
chng.it/GyprYYFP4M
spot on. Then they whine when there are rumors. Lay the cards out there and lets see what we are dealing with. Meanwhile there are 550 new sgts from a different test at Top Pay and will vote yes to anything. Its divide and conquer by the city and these dinosaurs in the union. At this rate I wont make more than my cops until I get the LT promotion