Shame on the SBA, corrupt to the core, vote these clowns out
NYM said
Dec 10, 2023
2 years out of contract as of 12/9!!
No updates from the SBA, no meetings this month. Must be nice for the SBA to take the whole summer off and the whole month of December with no contract negotiations with the city.
63_sniffer said
Dec 11, 2023
You have to get promoted just to get a contract.
Allout said
Dec 11, 2023
Crickets.
When is the next meeting? Are they done for the holiday season?
The lowest paid UMOS in my office are Sergeants!
SBA MIA said
Dec 11, 2023
Then they whine when rumors start. Well there is no damn updates on next meeting any progress Ect. These people could careless which is why they need to retire
-- Edited by SBA MIA on Monday 11th of December 2023 04:49:17 PM
Tunit said
Dec 11, 2023
There are still a number of raffle tickets available.
HopeBoss said
Dec 11, 2023
SaltyCrimeGuy wrote:
If the same person who was in charge of designing this years SBA cards is the one working on our contract we are really screwed!
lol everyone hating on the cards
HopeBoss said
Dec 11, 2023
Allout wrote:
Crickets.
When is the next meeting? Are they done for the holiday season?
The lowest paid UMOS in my office are Sergeants!
The 22nd, get ready for another generic we are working on it email along with happy new year
Tier3scum said
Dec 12, 2023
And to remind everyone that theyre closed on the following two Mondays for Christmas and New Years Day
-- Edited by Tier3scum on Tuesday 12th of December 2023 01:19:28 AM
Futureauxiliary said
Dec 12, 2023
Tier3scum wrote:
And to remind everyone that theyre closed on the following two Mondays for Christmas and New Years Day
-- Edited by Tier3scum on Tuesday 12th of December 2023 01:19:28 AM
Must be nice.
Ticonderoga said
Dec 12, 2023
Yea because they look like crap. Last year, a bunch of crc PO's. This year, random sgts, out of focus, blurry AF, with half of their image in shadows.
NYM said
Dec 13, 2023
BREAKING NEWS
THE CITY IS STOPPING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE SBA
THE CITY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO PAY THE RETRO AND NEW CONTRACT DUE TO BUDGET CUTS CITY WIDE
THE HOW MANY STOPS ACT IS GOING TO BE PASSED ON 12/20 BY THE CITY COUNCIL
COPS WILL BE MANDATED TO REPORT ANY CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC WHICH WILL RESULT IN MORE OVERTIME THEN THE CITY WANTS TO PAY
AS A RESULT OF THIS UNFORSEEN OVERTIME SND BUDGET CUTS ACROSS EVERY CITY AGENCY, THE CITY CANNOT COMMIT TO A CONTRACT WITH THE SBA
THE CITY POINTS OUT THAT THEY HAVE MADE DEALS WITH A MAJORITY OF UNIONS INCLUDING PBA, DEA, CBA, UFT, DSNY AND DC 37 AND THE SBA WILL HAVE TO WAIT THEIR TURN
WHEN THE CITY RECEIVES FUNDING FROM THE BIDEN ADMIN, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE BARGAINING TABLE
WartimeConsigliere said
Dec 13, 2023
Sure, why not? Merry Christmas, good luck at raffle
No1isbetter said
Dec 13, 2023
This Union & this city can go
-- Edited by No1isbetter on Wednesday 13th of December 2023 09:33:17 PM
63_sniffer said
Dec 13, 2023
NYM wrote:
BREAKING NEWS
THE CITY IS STOPPING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE SBA
THE CITY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO PAY THE RETRO AND NEW CONTRACT DUE TO BUDGET CUTS CITY WIDE
THE HOW MANY STOPS ACT IS GOING TO BE PASSED ON 12/20 BY THE CITY COUNCIL
COPS WILL BE MANDATED TO REPORT ANY CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC WHICH WILL RESULT IN MORE OVERTIME THEN THE CITY WANTS TO PAY
AS A RESULT OF THIS UNFORSEEN OVERTIME SND BUDGET CUTS ACROSS EVERY CITY AGENCY, THE CITY CANNOT COMMIT TO A CONTRACT WITH THE SBA
THE CITY POINTS OUT THAT THEY HAVE MADE DEALS WITH A MAJORITY OF UNIONS INCLUDING PBA, DEA, CBA, UFT, DSNY AND DC 37 AND THE SBA WILL HAVE TO WAIT THEIR TURN
WHEN THE CITY RECEIVES FUNDING FROM THE BIDEN ADMIN, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE BARGAINING TABLE
You have to win the raffle just to make more money than a police k9 dog does. Yes, they at top pay already and make more money than a new sergeant last year. Price of kibble and bits rose 18%
-- Edited by 63_sniffer on Wednesday 13th of December 2023 09:54:07 PM
watcher5 said
Dec 13, 2023
Is that great for sergeants promoted for the foreseeable future? Automatically top pay?
No1isbetter said
Dec 13, 2023
To all the young fresh Sgts nowhere near top paydo yourselves a favor & lateral to Westchester. Fuck this job.
Raymond Reddington said
Dec 13, 2023
No1isbetter wrote:
To all the young fresh Sgts nowhere near top paydo yourselves a favor & lateral to Westchester. Fuck this job.
What do you mean? All young fresh SGTs are top pay.
Futureauxiliary said
Dec 14, 2023
Nice to see top pay cops continue to make approximately $500+every check on their regular gross pay. Not only do they make more but they also work less hours on a regular chart. 8:35 Vs 8:57. Thats about 52.8hrs extra a year and we continue to work more and get paid less. Thank you SBA!
63_sniffer said
Dec 14, 2023
Thanks Vinny!!
No1isbetter said
Dec 14, 2023
Raymond Reddington wrote:
No1isbetter wrote:
To all the young fresh Sgts nowhere near top paydo yourselves a favor & lateral to Westchester. Fuck this job.
What do you mean? All young fresh SGTs are top pay.
There are less than 200 at top pay from the last 3 years of promotion. All can leave for Westchester & go to the step theyre at now & make a shit ton more money do a shit ton less work.
Taketheday said
Dec 14, 2023
NYM wrote:
BREAKING NEWS
THE CITY IS STOPPING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE SBA
THE CITY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO PAY THE RETRO AND NEW CONTRACT DUE TO BUDGET CUTS CITY WIDE
THE HOW MANY STOPS ACT IS GOING TO BE PASSED ON 12/20 BY THE CITY COUNCIL
COPS WILL BE MANDATED TO REPORT ANY CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC WHICH WILL RESULT IN MORE OVERTIME THEN THE CITY WANTS TO PAY
AS A RESULT OF THIS UNFORSEEN OVERTIME SND BUDGET CUTS ACROSS EVERY CITY AGENCY, THE CITY CANNOT COMMIT TO A CONTRACT WITH THE SBA
THE CITY POINTS OUT THAT THEY HAVE MADE DEALS WITH A MAJORITY OF UNIONS INCLUDING PBA, DEA, CBA, UFT, DSNY AND DC 37 AND THE SBA WILL HAVE TO WAIT THEIR TURN
WHEN THE CITY RECEIVES FUNDING FROM THE BIDEN ADMIN, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE BARGAINING TABLE
Lolol better chance of the Lt list coming out and getting promoted on it before this joke of a union ever settles.
Meanwhile over 2500 SGT are making less $ than every single cop on the job. Its time to get a petition started to get new SBA board members in, this regime doesn't give a F**K about any of us.
100questions said
Dec 14, 2023
I get the feeling the SBAs tactic is to wait this out as long as possible. As the job & City continue to promote Sergeants, the SBA is getting a growing membership who is at top pay and vote yes to any contract offered because they will jump to the new top pay mark. Meanwhile, the finite number of Sergeants in the 96k-97k range become less powerful with every new promotion class.
TicketoutofNarco said
Dec 14, 2023
100questions wrote:
I get the feeling the SBAs tactic is to wait this out as long as possible. As the job & City continue to promote Sergeants, the SBA is getting a growing membership who is at top pay and vote yes to any contract offered because they will jump to the new top pay mark. Meanwhile, the finite number of Sergeants in the 96k-97k range become less powerful with every new promotion class.
Yup they are waiting until the PBA is out of contract again to realign things
Futureauxiliary said
Dec 14, 2023
TicketoutofNarco wrote:
100questions wrote:
I get the feeling the SBAs tactic is to wait this out as long as possible. As the job & City continue to promote Sergeants, the SBA is getting a growing membership who is at top pay and vote yes to any contract offered because they will jump to the new top pay mark. Meanwhile, the finite number of Sergeants in the 96k-97k range become less powerful with every new promotion class.
Yup they are waiting until the PBA is out of contract again to realign things
At the pockets of 2000 Sgts making 97k. I can assure you if all those crooks were making 97k we would have a contract in effect already.
Fthisjob23 said
Dec 14, 2023
We have to replace these dinosaurs asap. As long as their pay isnt affected, they will not do anything.
35amonth said
Dec 14, 2023
Im sort of hoping we get something wacky plugged into this contract since its a shit show. Maybe like carbon fiber chevrons or a drone camera that follows us around instead of the body cam. Lets go Vinny get it done, negotiate and get us the numbers the city already agreed to.
NYM said
Dec 15, 2023
100questions wrote:
I get the feeling the SBAs tactic is to wait this out as long as possible. As the job & City continue to promote Sergeants, the SBA is getting a growing membership who is at top pay and vote yes to any contract offered because they will jump to the new top pay mark. Meanwhile, the finite number of Sergeants in the 96k-97k range become less powerful with every new promotion class.
100% TRUE!!!
socialwall1 said
Dec 15, 2023
CBA
Allout said
Dec 15, 2023
When are we supposed to get the uniform?
SBA MIA said
Dec 15, 2023
I got it coming in todays mail
NYM said
Dec 15, 2023
That check is about the only thing the SBA has done right
Spanish mama said
Dec 15, 2023
NYM wrote:
That check is about the only thing the SBA has done right
and that was done by the old administration. These new unelected guys are zeroes
Raymond Reddington said
Dec 16, 2023
When is the LTs retro check coming?
SaltyCrimeGuy said
Dec 16, 2023
Anyone have trouble cashing their uniform check?
UncleC69 said
Dec 16, 2023
I wouldnt be shocked if the check bounced. Dont think the Sba has replenished the cabbage Mullins took.
Also very interesting point that the uncle just realized and shame on every single board member for approving this and sending this out to the troops. It now takes longer for a sgt to hit top pay than a cop.
Sgt Top pay- completion of 5 years.
PO- 5 and half.
Have no fear, I'm sure the Sba is working tirelessly to remedy the contract issue.
Fraternally,
The unc
GangGreenMets said
Dec 16, 2023
SaltyCrimeGuy wrote:
Anyone have trouble cashing their uniform check?
Yup, SBA forgot to add a date to the checks. They cant be deposited.
TicketoutofNarco said
Dec 16, 2023
GangGreenMets wrote:
SaltyCrimeGuy wrote:
Anyone have trouble cashing their uniform check?
Yup, SBA forgot to add a date to the checks. They cant be deposited.
I saw that. Just electronically deposit it. It works
GangGreenMets said
Dec 17, 2023
Ill try it when Im home. I was told that didnt work either.
Arrow said
Dec 17, 2023
I didnt have a problem with it. The bank cleared it.
sector7 said
Dec 17, 2023
GangGreenMets wrote:
SaltyCrimeGuy wrote:
Anyone have trouble cashing their uniform check?
Yup, SBA forgot to add a date to the checks. They cant be deposited.
The banks should not be giving you a hard time, colleges accepted the checks from Mullins when he paid a relatives college tuition with undated union checks
GangGreenMets said
Dec 17, 2023
one of my coworkers did have a hard time. I just did a mobile deposit and it went throughhowever its Sunday so Ill know by tomorrow if it gets kicked back.
HopeBoss said
Dec 17, 2023
NYM wrote:
That check is about the only thing the SBA has done right
When did this become tax free and a separate check ? Also I deposited my check in person at chase and its still pending. I did it yesterday though
SaltyCrimeGuy said
Dec 17, 2023
Anyone else bothered that the cops even make more with their uniform allowance than us? After taxes the PBA brings home around $1050 if I remember correctly. SBA just continues to impress me
Raymond Reddington said
Dec 17, 2023
SaltyCrimeGuy wrote:
Anyone else bothered that the cops even make more with their uniform allowance than us? After taxes the PBA brings home around $1050 if I remember correctly. SBA just continues to impress me
Thats because our cap devices are cheaper.
63_sniffer said
Dec 18, 2023
People, last chance to buy raffles. Please if youre interested in funding the corrupt Sba delegates then Buy a dozen raffles. I mean, seriously , theres no way that anyone else in the entire board took money or knew that money was missing, especially not the treasurer. It was Mullins and Mullins alone. The other guys knew nothing and could never notice 300K missing from the treasurers box. Oh wait a minute
-- Edited by 63_sniffer on Monday 18th of December 2023 02:12:49 PM
Taketheday said
Dec 18, 2023
Mark my words Pay Disparity will not be fixed just so everyone realizes. They will keep putting people to top pay and hope they get enough support to vote in a Bullshit Contract. But apparently 12 Hour Tours are more important to fight over than half your membership making less than Cops.
So you know what Ill fix the SBAs problem for them
We will be posting a Change.org Petition and all SGT can vote to see if they want 12 hour tours or want the disparity fixed or not.
That way Vinny and the boys have some actual input and data from their members instead of useless Emails about Raffles.
Then we can present the results to the board see what happens.
No1isbetter said
Dec 18, 2023
12 hour tours arent happening. They just had a Ops Cord meeting at 1PP last week, it was stated that 12 hours isnt working and people dont like it.
Taketheday said
Dec 18, 2023
No1isbetter wrote:
12 hour tours arent happening. They just had a Ops Cord meeting at 1PP last week, it was stated that 12 hours isnt working and people dont like it.
If that was the case we would have settled. The 12 hour tours are gonna happen if the city needs them whether we like them or not.
No1isbetter said
Dec 18, 2023
Im not objecting to the 12 hour tours. Its moved nowhere & as far as that meeting went, indications arent positive on it.
Taketheday said
Dec 18, 2023
No1isbetter wrote:
Im not objecting to the 12 hour tours. Its moved nowhere & as far as that meeting went, indications arent positive on it.
Im not saying you are. My point is that the Unions been pushing the narrative that thats one of their high concerns when in reality, it should be the pay disparity thats what more members care about than the 12 hour tour which is why I think they should just take a vote to see where theyre at and I can guarantee you the overwhelming majority want the pay fixed
No updates from the SBA, no meetings this month. Must be nice for the SBA to take the whole summer off and the whole month of December with no contract negotiations with the city.
When is the next meeting? Are they done for the holiday season?
The lowest paid UMOS in my office are Sergeants!
Then they whine when rumors start. Well there is no damn updates on next meeting any progress Ect. These people could careless which is why they need to retire
-- Edited by SBA MIA on Monday 11th of December 2023 04:49:17 PM
lol everyone hating on the cards
The 22nd, get ready for another generic we are working on it email along with happy new year
And to remind everyone that theyre closed on the following two Mondays for Christmas and New Years Day
-- Edited by Tier3scum on Tuesday 12th of December 2023 01:19:28 AM
Must be nice.
Yea because they look like crap. Last year, a bunch of crc PO's. This year, random sgts, out of focus, blurry AF, with half of their image in shadows.
THE CITY IS STOPPING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE SBA
THE CITY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO PAY THE RETRO AND NEW CONTRACT DUE TO BUDGET CUTS CITY WIDE
THE HOW MANY STOPS ACT IS GOING TO BE PASSED ON 12/20 BY THE CITY COUNCIL
COPS WILL BE MANDATED TO REPORT ANY CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC WHICH WILL RESULT IN MORE OVERTIME THEN THE CITY WANTS TO PAY
AS A RESULT OF THIS UNFORSEEN OVERTIME SND BUDGET CUTS ACROSS EVERY CITY AGENCY, THE CITY CANNOT COMMIT TO A CONTRACT WITH THE SBA
THE CITY POINTS OUT THAT THEY HAVE MADE DEALS WITH A MAJORITY OF UNIONS INCLUDING PBA, DEA, CBA, UFT, DSNY AND DC 37 AND THE SBA WILL HAVE TO WAIT THEIR TURN
WHEN THE CITY RECEIVES FUNDING FROM THE BIDEN ADMIN, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE BARGAINING TABLE
This Union & this city can go
-- Edited by No1isbetter on Wednesday 13th of December 2023 09:33:17 PM
You have to win the raffle just to make more money than a police k9 dog does. Yes, they at top pay already and make more money than a new sergeant last year. Price of kibble and bits rose 18%
-- Edited by 63_sniffer on Wednesday 13th of December 2023 09:54:07 PM
What do you mean? All young fresh SGTs are top pay.
There are less than 200 at top pay from the last 3 years of promotion. All can leave for Westchester & go to the step theyre at now & make a shit ton more money do a shit ton less work.
Lolol better chance of the Lt list coming out and getting promoted on it before this joke of a union ever settles.
Meanwhile over 2500 SGT are making less $ than every single cop on the job. Its time to get a petition started to get new SBA board members in, this regime doesn't give a F**K about any of us.
Yup they are waiting until the PBA is out of contract again to realign things
At the pockets of 2000 Sgts making 97k. I can assure you if all those crooks were making 97k we would have a contract in effect already.
100% TRUE!!!
CBA
I got it coming in todays mail
and that was done by the old administration. These new unelected guys are zeroes
Also very interesting point that the uncle just realized and shame on every single board member for approving this and sending this out to the troops. It now takes longer for a sgt to hit top pay than a cop.
Sgt Top pay- completion of 5 years.
PO- 5 and half.
Have no fear, I'm sure the Sba is working tirelessly to remedy the contract issue.
Fraternally,
The unc
Yup, SBA forgot to add a date to the checks. They cant be deposited.
I saw that. Just electronically deposit it. It works
Ill try it when Im home. I was told that didnt work either.
The banks should not be giving you a hard time, colleges accepted the checks from Mullins when he paid a relatives college tuition with undated union checks
one of my coworkers did have a hard time. I just did a mobile deposit and it went throughhowever its Sunday so Ill know by tomorrow if it gets kicked back.
When did this become tax free and a separate check ? Also I deposited my check in person at chase and its still pending. I did it yesterday though
Thats because our cap devices are cheaper.
People, last chance to buy raffles. Please if youre interested in funding the corrupt Sba delegates then Buy a dozen raffles. I mean, seriously , theres no way that anyone else in the entire board took money or knew that money was missing, especially not the treasurer. It was Mullins and Mullins alone. The other guys knew nothing and could never notice 300K missing from the treasurers box. Oh wait a minute
-- Edited by 63_sniffer on Monday 18th of December 2023 02:12:49 PM
So you know what Ill fix the SBAs problem for them
We will be posting a Change.org Petition and all SGT can vote to see if they want 12 hour tours or want the disparity fixed or not.
That way Vinny and the boys have some actual input and data from their members instead of useless Emails about Raffles.
Then we can present the results to the board see what happens.
If that was the case we would have settled. The 12 hour tours are gonna happen if the city needs them whether we like them or not.
Im not saying you are. My point is that the Unions been pushing the narrative that thats one of their high concerns when in reality, it should be the pay disparity thats what more members care about than the 12 hour tour which is why I think they should just take a vote to see where theyre at and I can guarantee you the overwhelming majority want the pay fixed