I totally agree with Lt4life! I had mentioned that I believe these additional points didn't come from the protest & DrPipi was calling me all types of names. He even had the audacity to call me a rookie & all sorts of nonsense because he felt I was questioning his unreliable Intel! Anyways, I will like to let you all know that the gramatical question rumor, came from the mouth of one of the Capt' who wrote the exam. So, with that being said, I don't know if he was just trying to be a jerk by stating this (in order to give false hope) or if he was being honest. IDK.
Zeph said
Dec 8, 2022
BORICUAPLATINUM wrote:
I totally agree with Lt4life! I had mentioned that I believe these additional points didn't come from the protest & DrPipi was calling me all types of names. He even had the audacity to call me a rookie & all sorts of nonsense because he felt I was questioning his unreliable Intel! Anyways, I will like to let you all know that the gramatical question rumor, came from the mouth of one of the Capt' who wrote the exam. So, with that being said, I don't know if he was just trying to be a jerk by stating this (in order to give false hope) or if he was being honest. IDK.
If you got that intel from an exam writer, that would make it very unreliable. I dont think they have any say in that matter.
BORICUAPLATINUM said
Dec 8, 2022
the reason given was that those 2 questions were not suppose to be on the exam and DCAS still included them.
BORICUAPLATINUM said
Dec 8, 2022
Again, I don't know if he was being honest because they are not suppose to discuss the exam at all.
-- Edited by BORICUAPLATINUM on Thursday 8th of December 2022 08:28:25 AM
Zeph said
Dec 8, 2022
BORICUAPLATINUM wrote:
the reason given was that those 2 questions were not suppose to be on the exam and DCAS still included them.
I was looking for one grammar error question i noticed in order to contest it, but I didnt get it wrong. My score still went up by two. Thats why i found that assumption to be doubtful.
Papi825 said
Dec 8, 2022
Leslie wrote:
Chew11 wrote:
What floor is HR on? People are saying they may get a special visit from the doctor this week!
A motoconcho just pulled up to 1PP, we might hear from the doctor soon
Lmfaooooooo
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 8, 2022
People do not discuss the exam or people you spoke to. Please.
Richmond121 said
Dec 9, 2022
Department officially under 34000 UMOS now. Budgeted manpower is 35k. I think the city doesnt care about a 30 vacancy rank. Only executives care cause some have been COs at precincts for years. They want to leave. They are creating the rumors that the department is desperate for Captains. About 8 commands are open in Brooklyn but they dont have anyone to fill it with. XOs dont have enough time in rank. Adams saving money not filling the vacancies. He doesnt care. List out in two months. Promotions in spring. Stop the December rumors. Promotions in December because of the Chief retirements and promotion in January to clear the Sgts list. My prediction.
brooklynbacon said
Dec 9, 2022
Richmond121 wrote:
Department officially under 34000 UMOS now. Budgeted manpower is 35k. I think the city doesnt care about a 30 vacancy rank. Only executives care cause some have been COs at precincts for years. They want to leave. They are creating the rumors that the department is desperate for Captains. About 8 commands are open in Brooklyn but they dont have anyone to fill it with. XOs dont have enough time in rank. Adams saving money not filling the vacancies. He doesnt care. List out in two months. Promotions in spring. Stop the December rumors. Promotions in December because of the Chief retirements and promotion in January to clear the Sgts list. My prediction.
Yeah the sgt vacancies are at like 500 now. Does anyone honestly think we will ever fill that? Keep doing more work with less personnel. Especially if youre a cop and havent had a raise in five years.
SonsOfXavier1997 said
Dec 9, 2022
list is 200 plus. will last a good three-four years. not many were added to list with throwouts. i dont know why people on here are throwing out bs intel to give false hope. and yes the list is at 1pp they are doing seniority and JST additions as we speak thats a fact
SonsOfXavier1997 said
Dec 9, 2022
and totally agree. it is a bottleneck thing that will go on. they have shot out promos like never before and exhausted lists. their will be a bottleneck effecting all ranks soon because no one wants this job anymore. no cops--no bump ups. that being said they always exhaust captain lists. always.
-- Edited by SonsOfXavier1997 on Friday 9th of December 2022 11:44:42 PM
West72 said
Dec 10, 2022
Im told the only list to die in the last 15-20 years was a LT list.
Have they always exhausted a Sgt list too?
Wooly said
Dec 10, 2022
Finally some real talk on this forum
brooklynbacon said
Dec 10, 2022
West72 wrote:
Im told the only list to die in the last 15-20 years was a LT list. Have they always exhausted a Sgt list too?
Yes the only list to ever die in the modern era is a single Lt list.
Zeph said
Dec 10, 2022
For the military guy who had his score bumped by two points, it was a mystery thing. The score you now see on the dashboard is the final raw score. If you didnt get a 70 or over, it is over.
1underthebuss said
Dec 10, 2022
@zeph why the change of heart and did ya get this from a real source?
WhiteCastleCop said
Dec 10, 2022
I respectfully disagree
1underthebuss said
Dec 10, 2022
I emailed dcas and asked about finding out what we got wrong and if the protest went in our favor This is what I got back - weve got hope ! Keeping pushing and praying guys
@zeph why the change of heart and did ya get this from a real source?
From a reliable source.
Zeph said
Dec 10, 2022
That particular reply you received doesnt mean they didnt take a decision yet on the protested questions. They just stated that you may review the protest decision if you wish. Thatll not change their mind.
Zeph said
Dec 10, 2022
They have only one appeal
BORICUAPLATINUM said
Dec 10, 2022
Hey, I have a quick question for you guys who got promoted off the 2017 Lt's Exam. Did DCAS' website have a dashboard then? I came across a post where Tony (RisingStar founder) made a comment about extra points added to their scores. I'll attach the screen shot.
My 2 cents. Dcas will not have the list ready in the next two weeks. They take off from Christmas week through New Years and the list is out early to mid January.
-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Saturday 10th of December 2022 12:58:09 PM
LT4LIFE said
Dec 10, 2022
Zeph wrote:
For the military guy who had his score bumped by two points, it was a mystery thing. The score you now see on the dashboard is the final raw score. If you didnt get a 70 or over, it is over.
Your source couldnt explain why this happened then?
1underthebuss said
Dec 10, 2022
So its not really clear if the protest points are added
1underthebuss said
Dec 10, 2022
While everyone makes errors I think there is more than we know going on, I think all we can really do is just wait and for those of us who are on the cusp, keep hope
LT4LIFE said
Dec 10, 2022
Agreed
Chew11 said
Dec 10, 2022
BORICUAPLATINUM wrote:
Hey, I have a quick question for you guys who got promoted off the 2017 Lt's Exam. Did DCAS' website have a dashboard then? I came across a post where Tony (RisingStar founder) made a comment about extra points added to their scores. I'll attach the screen shot.
From what I remember, there is a whole thread somewhere here for one of the ranks where someone does a good deep dive explaining that a company was contracted by the city to scale these exams. It explained a lot and was very controversial at the time. Its in one of the 2017 exam threads, unfortunately I dont remember if it was Capt/LT/Sgt
Zeph said
Dec 10, 2022
LT4LIFE wrote:
Zeph wrote:
For the military guy who had his score bumped by two points, it was a mystery thing. The score you now see on the dashboard is the final raw score. If you didnt get a 70 or over, it is over.
Your source couldnt explain why this happened then?
There is no explanation on that. I hope we can find out one day.
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
SupvHomeOwner wrote:
Thanks for confirming my Intel. List is NOT at 1PP. All we know its that its being EXPEDITED. I was informed list is dropping soon (very soon)..by end of year and promotions soon thereafter. If something changes Ill advise. Please dont shoot the messenger.
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
Zeph wrote:
LT4LIFE wrote:
Zeph wrote:
For the military guy who had his score bumped by two points, it was a mystery thing. The score you now see on the dashboard is the final raw score. If you didnt get a 70 or over, it is over.
Your source couldnt explain why this happened then?
There is no explanation on that. I hope we can find out one day.
Exactly, that guy sounds like a troll. Giving people on here FALSE HOPE! Its over my good people. Please hit the books and stay in them. Another Captain exam will soon come. Congrats to all that pass this exam. Heard it was extremely challenging.
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
1underthebuss wrote:
While everyone makes errors I think there is more than we know going on, I think all we can really do is just wait and for those of us who are on the cusp, keep hope
Brother youre DELUSIONAL. Its over. Hit the books. I promise you this. Save the embarrassment. Stop. Please SMH
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
Zeph wrote:
Not throwing shade at anyone, but very wacky things happen on this job. This is DCAS we are dealing with here.
I agree. They are not perfect but remember, hardly anyone showed up at protest session. Ask around. You only pick up question if it is SUCCESSFULLY protested. So shame on You if you failed and DID NOT ATTEND the protest session. Why hope when you didnt do your due diligence SMH.
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
brooklynbacon wrote:
Good ol Alan, our hero.
My 2 cents. Dcas will not have the list ready in the next two weeks. They take off from Christmas week through New Years and the list is out early to mid January.
-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Saturday 10th of December 2022 12:58:09 PM
List is coming soon brother. promotions soon there after.
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
Zeph wrote:
1underthebuss wrote:
@zeph why the change of heart and did ya get this from a real source?
From a reliable source.
Thanks for clarifying my Intel. Theres no conspiracy here. Its over folks. If you failed move on. No more wishing ipon a star. If you failed and didnt pickup a point its over. If you failed and picked up points and STILL FAILED , its over. If you failed and picked up points and PASSED , then congratulations. Please my good people. This forum is for Intel for the next step. Not what if and maybe this or that. Its over.
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
SonsOfXavier1997 wrote:
list is 200 plus. will last a good three-four years. not many were added to list with throwouts. i dont know why people on here are throwing out bs intel to give false hope. and yes the list is at 1pp they are doing seniority and JST additions as we speak thats a fact
Stop with the BS Intel. Please brother. SMH
LT4LIFE said
Dec 10, 2022
DRPapi1983 wrote:
Zeph wrote:
1underthebuss wrote:
@zeph why the change of heart and did ya get this from a real source?
From a reliable source.
Thanks for clarifying my Intel. Theres no conspiracy here. Its over folks. If you failed move on. No more wishing ipon a star. If you failed and didnt pickup a point its over. If you failed and picked up points and STILL FAILED , its over. If you failed and picked up points and PASSED , then congratulations. Please my good people. This forum is for Intel for the next step. Not what if and maybe this or that. Its over.
You better hope and pray your right on this one troll. Cause if youre talking out of your a$$ on a topic like this so important to so many people in here, you truly are a despicable human.
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
LT4LIFE wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
Zeph wrote:
1underthebuss wrote:
@zeph why the change of heart and did ya get this from a real source?
From a reliable source.
Thanks for clarifying my Intel. Theres no conspiracy here. Its over folks. If you failed move on. No more wishing ipon a star. If you failed and didnt pickup a point its over. If you failed and picked up points and STILL FAILED , its over. If you failed and picked up points and PASSED , then congratulations. Please my good people. This forum is for Intel for the next step. Not what if and maybe this or that. Its over.
You better hope and pray your right on this one troll. Cause if youre talking out of your a$$ on a topic like this so important to so many people in here, you truly are a despicable human.
Easy there LT4LIFE, the rank of Lieutenant is not that bad after all So please stay there. As for my Intel, its sincere and its not BS. Again, was informed soon list come (by end of year) and promotions soon there after. Could source be wrong ? Anything is possible. But Im pretty sure brother of this Intel. Please dont shoot the messenger
Zeph said
Dec 10, 2022
You, guys, should spend your energy on how that person passed despite the dashboard showing him with a 68. Thats the whole confusion and no one seems to have a clue. That grammar error explanation was BS.
LT4LIFE said
Dec 10, 2022
Zeph wrote:
You, guys, should spend your energy on how that person passed despite the dashboard showing him with a 68. Thats the whole confusion and no one seems to have a clue. That grammar error explanation was BS.
Well if the grammar question wasnt it. Theres only 2 explanations. DCAS screwed up his Score soley. Or dare I say the dreaded C word (curve) has been implemented And just not updated. Again thats my best GUESS, no make believe source from 1PP is telling me this.
Zeph said
Dec 10, 2022
LT4LIFE wrote:
Zeph wrote:
You, guys, should spend your energy on how that person passed despite the dashboard showing him with a 68. Thats the whole confusion and no one seems to have a clue. That grammar error explanation was BS.
Well if the grammar question wasnt it. Theres only 2 explanations. DCAS screwed up his Score soley. Or dare I say the dreaded C word (curve) has been implemented And just not updated. Again thats my best GUESS, no make believe source from 1PP is telling me this.
i Believe if there was a curve, the list would be more like 300 than the low 200 size we have been referring to here. Based on intel out there, curve is not part of the equation.
LT4LIFE said
Dec 10, 2022
Zeph wrote:
LT4LIFE wrote:
Zeph wrote:
You, guys, should spend your energy on how that person passed despite the dashboard showing him with a 68. Thats the whole confusion and no one seems to have a clue. That grammar error explanation was BS.
Well if the grammar question wasnt it. Theres only 2 explanations. DCAS screwed up his Score soley. Or dare I say the dreaded C word (curve) has been implemented And just not updated. Again thats my best GUESS, no make believe source from 1PP is telling me this.
i Believe if there was a curve, the list would be more like 300 than the low 200 size we have been referring to here. Based on intel out there, curve is not part of the equation.
Ok then you are simply going with that DCAS just messed up on ABEs score. Again surely possible. Any other reasons you can think of?
Zeph said
Dec 10, 2022
We discussed all the possibilities on this board. I am pretty anyone with any little hint would help clarify. We just do not know.
Chew11 said
Dec 10, 2022
He picked up two points via protest like others whose dashboard updated.
The dashboard is wrong. No curve.
Thats the most likely outcome, but who knows.
Zeph said
Dec 10, 2022
It is weird that DCAS would not fix his dashboard. Im almost certain someone read what is being discussed on this board and reported back to them.
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
Zeph wrote:
You, guys, should spend your energy on how that person passed despite the dashboard showing him with a 68. Thats the whole confusion and no one seems to have a clue. That grammar error explanation was BS.
Brother , those people are trolls on here. Dont mind to the man behind the curtain.
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
LT4LIFE wrote:
Zeph wrote:
You, guys, should spend your energy on how that person passed despite the dashboard showing him with a 68. Thats the whole confusion and no one seems to have a clue. That grammar error explanation was BS.
Well if the grammar question wasnt it. Theres only 2 explanations. DCAS screwed up his Score soley. Or dare I say the dreaded C word (curve) has been implemented And just not updated. Again thats my best GUESS, no make believe source from 1PP is telling me this.
Again, leave the SPECULATION out of the forum please.
DRPapi1983 said
Dec 10, 2022
Zeph wrote:
We discussed all the possibilities on this board. I am pretty anyone with any little hint would help clarify. We just do not know.
If you got that intel from an exam writer, that would make it very unreliable. I dont think they have any say in that matter.
Again, I don't know if he was being honest because they are not suppose to discuss the exam at all.
-- Edited by BORICUAPLATINUM on Thursday 8th of December 2022 08:28:25 AM
I was looking for one grammar error question i noticed in order to contest it, but I didnt get it wrong. My score still went up by two. Thats why i found that assumption to be doubtful.
Lmfaooooooo
Yeah the sgt vacancies are at like 500 now. Does anyone honestly think we will ever fill that? Keep doing more work with less personnel. Especially if youre a cop and havent had a raise in five years.
and totally agree. it is a bottleneck thing that will go on. they have shot out promos like never before and exhausted lists. their will be a bottleneck effecting all ranks soon because no one wants this job anymore. no cops--no bump ups. that being said they always exhaust captain lists. always.
-- Edited by SonsOfXavier1997 on Friday 9th of December 2022 11:44:42 PM
Have they always exhausted a Sgt list too?
Yes the only list to ever die in the modern era is a single Lt list.
I respectfully disagree
I emailed dcas and asked about finding out what we got wrong and if the protest went in our favor
This is what I got back - weve got hope ! Keeping pushing and praying guys
From a reliable source.
They have only one appeal
Hey, I have a quick question for you guys who got promoted off the 2017 Lt's Exam. Did DCAS' website have a dashboard then? I came across a post where Tony (RisingStar founder) made a comment about extra points added to their scores. I'll attach the screen shot.
Good ol Alan, our hero.
My 2 cents. Dcas will not have the list ready in the next two weeks. They take off from Christmas week through New Years and the list is out early to mid January.
-- Edited by brooklynbacon on Saturday 10th of December 2022 12:58:09 PM
Your source couldnt explain why this happened then?
From what I remember, there is a whole thread somewhere here for one of the ranks where someone does a good deep dive explaining that a company was contracted by the city to scale these exams. It explained a lot and was very controversial at the time. Its in one of the 2017 exam threads, unfortunately I dont remember if it was Capt/LT/Sgt
Thanks for confirming my Intel. List is NOT at 1PP. All we know its that its being EXPEDITED. I was informed list is dropping soon (very soon)..by end of year and promotions soon thereafter. If something changes Ill advise. Please dont shoot the messenger.
Exactly, that guy sounds like a troll. Giving people on here FALSE HOPE! Its over my good people. Please hit the books and stay in them. Another Captain exam will soon come. Congrats to all that pass this exam. Heard it was extremely challenging.
Brother youre DELUSIONAL. Its over. Hit the books. I promise you this. Save the embarrassment. Stop. Please SMH
I agree. They are not perfect but remember, hardly anyone showed up at protest session. Ask around. You only pick up question if it is SUCCESSFULLY protested. So shame on You if you failed and DID NOT ATTEND the protest session. Why hope when you didnt do your due diligence SMH.
List is coming soon brother. promotions soon there after.
Thanks for clarifying my Intel. Theres no conspiracy here. Its over folks. If you failed move on. No more wishing ipon a star. If you failed and didnt pickup a point its over. If you failed and picked up points and STILL FAILED , its over. If you failed and picked up points and PASSED , then congratulations. Please my good people. This forum is for Intel for the next step. Not what if and maybe this or that. Its over.
Stop with the BS Intel. Please brother. SMH
You better hope and pray your right on this one troll. Cause if youre talking out of your a$$ on a topic like this so important to so many people in here, you truly are a despicable human.
Easy there LT4LIFE, the rank of Lieutenant is not that bad after all So please stay there. As for my Intel, its sincere and its not BS. Again, was informed soon list come (by end of year) and promotions soon there after. Could source be wrong ? Anything is possible. But Im pretty sure brother of this Intel. Please dont shoot the messenger
Well if the grammar question wasnt it. Theres only 2 explanations. DCAS screwed up his Score soley. Or dare I say the dreaded C word (curve) has been implemented And just not updated. Again thats my best GUESS, no make believe source from 1PP is telling me this.
i Believe if there was a curve, the list would be more like 300 than the low 200 size we have been referring to here. Based on intel out there, curve is not part of the equation.
Ok then you are simply going with that DCAS just messed up on ABEs score. Again surely possible. Any other reasons you can think of?
The dashboard is wrong. No curve.
Thats the most likely outcome, but who knows.
Brother , those people are trolls on here. Dont mind to the man behind the curtain.
Again, leave the SPECULATION out of the forum please.
No! Youre DELUSIONAL. Stop it already. Please SMH