The 16 vehicle also had a broken axle, which could trip you up into thinking it should be DARP'ed.
NauseousPBBN said
Mar 2, 2017
Guys. The first car was driveable, THEN the cops saw wheel of second car off axle, so they ran car and it came up 16.
T6 is the answer. stop reading into it.
100questions said
Mar 2, 2017
People are beginning to manipulate the questions in order to rationaliz protesting it. Not sure if it's because you guys genuinely do not remember the questions or you're trying to validate what your answer was by restating what you THINK the questions were.
allycat said
Mar 2, 2017
exactly at this point its starting to become pointless if we don't stay on the task at hand..
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 2, 2017
exactly we need to go after the real questions that could potentially get overturned
Nyfine said
Mar 2, 2017
Does anyone know which question said what is the "most"....without stating correct or incorrect? That's a strong one.
allycat said
Mar 2, 2017
ok lets do it ...
unfortunately the scaffolding question is a no go because they locked us in. one of the first questions i checked after the test!
1012by1 said
Mar 2, 2017
I read that question the same as urinalfly. One car was stolen and needed to be towed and the other car had a broken axle. I chose t7 on test day because that it how I understood the question.
I think the question was very poorly worded, additionally I may have been hasty
Caralho said
Mar 2, 2017
Well looks like it's true less than 8% passed
Arrow said
Mar 2, 2017
Where is the 8% info coming from?
-- Edited by Arrow on Thursday 2nd of March 2017 01:27:10 AM
Caralho said
Mar 2, 2017
Look at the 2016 Sgt forum it was just posted
100questions said
Mar 2, 2017
allycat said
Mar 2, 2017
soooo with that less than 8% pass rate.. anyone that wants to seriously get some questions to try to protest pm me...
Theforceisstrongwiththisone said
Mar 2, 2017
Less than 4% passed the 2015 Lt exam before the throwouts....so I think you guys had a straight forward exam. Unfortunately 8 to 10% is the normal passing rate for these exams nowadays fellas
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 2, 2017
damnnnnnn
Thebirds said
Mar 2, 2017
Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:
Less than 4% passed the 2015 Lt exam before the throwouts....so I think you guys had a straight forward exam. Unfortunately 8 to 10% is the normal passing rate for these exams nowadays fellas
No one is saying this test is on the level of that sham of a lieutenant exam, but it was hard and most certainly not straight forward. Consider that a lot of people studied for a full year. If it had a normal study cycle the pass rate would have been even lower.
Theforceisstrongwiththisone said
Mar 2, 2017
Yup....but the bright side is that promotional exams are given every two years or so..in the past guys had to wait 5 or more years to take an exam.
Theforceisstrongwiththisone said
Mar 2, 2017
True but its not that cops are less smart now...its the opposite. Today, more cops than ever are coming on the job with bachelors, masters, and law degrees. It's just that the exams have gotten harder due the voluminous amount of material you need to study coupled with the unpredictability of what questions they will ask. We all know the groundballs: complaints, dutiez&responsiblities, yada yada yada. I think these exams require a new way of thinking/learning....the type of class that the owners of Rising Star have put together seem to be the way to go.
Theforceisstrongwiththisone said
Mar 2, 2017
I dont know how eze and tony figured it out but they seemed to have cracked the code to the DCAS maddness way of thinking. Im rolling with rising star on all promotional exams from here on out
allycat said
Mar 2, 2017
Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:
I dont know how eze and tony figured it out but they seemed to have cracked the code to the DCAS maddness way of thinking. Im rolling with rising star on all promotional exams from here on out
Did you take this exam?
Caralho said
Mar 2, 2017
U think nothing, you didn't take the exam first off and second your LT EXAM... how many people took that compare to the Sgt exam genius..
Gk06 said
Mar 2, 2017
JPAL91091 wrote:
UrinalFly wrote:
prayingforapass70 wrote:
oooooo DARP one.....well the consensus was 99t6.....I just thought about wa we use on patrol for a 53
I actually believe it was T7 and that the sentence describing the damage to both vehicles was VERY poorly worded.
but said only one needed to be towed the other was able to be driven away or start up or something along those lines
The driver said the car can be driven but the decision is made by the officer I thought the officer noticed damage to the first car and the second car was 16. Not sure if I miss read it but I went back read the question three times and changed it to t7
Gk06 said
Mar 2, 2017
But I just saw previous statements and it doesn't matter can't protest it
bookworm said
Mar 2, 2017
All we can do at this point is look forward test is already taken. Make sure you protest the questions you got wrong. They want to be nit picky with us and these questions then we do it right back to them during the protest. Do your research print out your sources and be prepared. I hope you all mailed in your slips or went in person to hand them in. We can still bring up the passing rate stay motivated.
Finest7578 said
Mar 2, 2017
What do you mean being up the passing rate ?
HardExam2 said
Mar 2, 2017
....
-- Edited by HardExam2 on Monday 6th of March 2017 03:26:38 AM
-- Edited by HardExam2 on Monday 6th of March 2017 03:42:23 AM
bookworm said
Mar 2, 2017
Finest7578 wrote:
What do you mean being up the passing rate ?
not sure if you saw the previous posts all over this forum.... only 8% or 7% of people psssed the test I'm saying we can bring that percentage up. The average passing rate on a sgts exam is 10% if we take the time and protest questions we can hopefully bring up this percentage.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 2, 2017
We gotta come up with 5 or 6 questions that will be WORTH protesting and we ALL have to agree on it
doowee58 said
Mar 2, 2017
responding to Command Post is the supervisor first on scene's job. Patrol Supervisor's job is to assign MOS to direct emergency vehicles
RookieScum4Life said
Mar 2, 2017
Do you guys realize how the protest session works? The number of people protesting a question does not make a difference on whether or not an answer is changed. If 1000 people protest a question on an the same invalid argument, it will not win. All it takes is 1 person to make a valid argument. You have to prove that A) your answer is just as good or better than the proposed answer or B) none of the answers are correct. There has to be something that is objectionably wrong with the proposed answer or stem of the question that would make a protest valid. That is why the questions are "which is most correct" - the proposed answer may not be 100% correct (although 99.9% it is) it is still more correct than the other 3.
An example of a protest that got a question thrown out on my 2006 exam was the new IO (at the time) effecting 210-04 Prisoners requiring medical/psychiatric treatment. All males admitted for psych treatment go to Bellevue, all females go to EGH. The question on the exam had a citizen telling a sector car he wanted to kill himself or something and they take him to the hospital. The hospital then says that he has to be admitted for psych reasons and the question said according to Interim Order ### revising 210-04 which choice was most correct? Only problem was was that the citizen was not under arrest nor was he a prisoner. The procedure referenced in the question did not apply and therefore all the choices were wrong.
doowee58 said
Mar 2, 2017
Thebirds wrote:
DeezNutz wrote:
nypd2010 wrote:
Will be protesting the question regarding confrontations. Based on the choices there were none that were verbatum from the PG. One choice said to have the cop take out his ID in a controlled manner (never specified slow) which is a point they went to on the last exam also the other apparently "correct" answer said for the cop to holster his firearm and put his hands in the air. i dont have the PG near me right now but i checked and there is no statement about holstering a firearm. it merely says while doing admin work in civ. attire, wear shield near holster but make an attempt to move shield near chest area when taking enforcement action
Also, the 207 question regarding notifying IAB, it was the officers on scene right?
fire question- supervisor I chose advise FDNY incident commander of the number of mos in the building but i heard a few people say it was proceed immediately to the incident command post
For the (2) fire questions, one is for the Sgt to report to the incident command post, and the other was for the sector (second sector on scene) to account for the UMOS's.
-- Edited by DeezNutz on Monday 27th of February 2017 12:52:50 AM
I addressed this already, look at my post on the question. They got a lot of people on that sergeant fire question because they didn't take into account that he was the second sergeant on scene.
You are correct. second sergeant on scene.....assign UMOS to direct responding emergency vehicles.....
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 2, 2017
ok so lets all vote on at least 5 questions to protest ...and ones we know we will have a chance to get overturned
jay012983 said
Mar 3, 2017
two questions that no one has talked about on this post which i thought was tricky. the dead body question and the ccrb question. anyone remember those?
Nyfine said
Mar 3, 2017
The ccrb was inbasket right? I don't remember the dead body question? Such a blur....
NauseousPBBN said
Mar 3, 2017
Nvm confused with civil papers.
-- Edited by NauseousPBBN on Friday 3rd of March 2017 07:22:39 AM
Aqfyn3st said
Mar 3, 2017
Regarding the amount of cops to transport the prisoners...read 210-01 step 21a. It clearly states more then 2 prisoners you MUST use transport chains. I believe this question is protestble.
jay012983 said
Mar 3, 2017
that was one of the ccrb questions. the other was regarding the complainant and the forms to fill out. the dead bosy was kind of tough but i cant really remember either. i def dropped the ball in this exam. if you studied you would have got a lot of the technical questions right. what was hard about this exam was the attention to detail. if you didnt pay attention you could have easily dropped a lot of questions.
bartolo103 said
Mar 3, 2017
Does anyone remember the DOA question?
jay012983 said
Mar 3, 2017
pretty sure it was something about an exposed body and what does the patrol supervisor do on scene. cant remember much more about it.
Caralho said
Mar 3, 2017
Hey Bartolommeo what did u put for the doa?
bartolo103 said
Mar 3, 2017
Can't remember
Foolmetwice said
Mar 3, 2017
So I've been avoiding posting anything because I'm not sure the rules as far as people taking the make up test but I remember the DOA one pretty clearly. I narrowed it down to two answers and I now know I picked the wrong one.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 3, 2017
I think the ans was th PS has to sign their books...i pikd it but i thought it was wrong and changed it ...smh
Foolmetwice said
Mar 3, 2017
Yeah that was the right one. I did the same as you. I kept thinking pat sup certifies cops activity log entries by putting date time rank and signature and comments. So I went with remove the body even though I knew he needed permission from ME and Detective investigating. Just figured maybe he had to get there permission if possible or something like that. Too much overthinking on my part. Everyone kept saying when you take the test go with your first pick. I Should have listened to people and just Went with my first pick.
Caralho said
Mar 3, 2017
This dude Bartolo is sneaking for answers. If u didn't remember y care because u wouldn't know. Guys be careful make up test still was administered
Foolmetwice said
Mar 3, 2017
yeah that makes sense. I'll continue to just read through these post and not mention any questions or answers. I am confused though. At this point are there still individuals who haven't taken the exam?
Caralho said
Mar 3, 2017
Yes there are. I heard people saying they havnt taken the exam yet because they are still out
Foolmetwice said
Mar 3, 2017
Ok. Good to know. Thanks.
jay012983 said
Mar 3, 2017
i dont think that matters. from what i understand they get a different test now from dcas. they want to avoid another cheating scandal.
Curadan said
Mar 3, 2017
Did anybody else have typo on the correct answer for the mayors executive order question? The first part was right but then it said commissioner of inspections...
T6 is the answer. stop reading into it.
People are beginning to manipulate the questions in order to rationaliz protesting it. Not sure if it's because you guys genuinely do not remember the questions or you're trying to validate what your answer was by restating what you THINK the questions were.
exactly at this point its starting to become pointless if we don't stay on the task at hand..
unfortunately the scaffolding question is a no go because they locked us in. one of the first questions i checked after the test!
I think the question was very poorly worded, additionally I may have been hasty
Where is the 8% info coming from?
-- Edited by Arrow on Thursday 2nd of March 2017 01:27:10 AM
No one is saying this test is on the level of that sham of a lieutenant exam, but it was hard and most certainly not straight forward. Consider that a lot of people studied for a full year. If it had a normal study cycle the pass rate would have been even lower.
Did you take this exam?
U think nothing, you didn't take the exam first off and second your LT EXAM... how many people took that compare to the Sgt exam genius..
The driver said the car can be driven but the decision is made by the officer I thought the officer noticed damage to the first car and the second car was 16. Not sure if I miss read it but I went back read the question three times and changed it to t7
....
-- Edited by HardExam2 on Monday 6th of March 2017 03:26:38 AM
-- Edited by HardExam2 on Monday 6th of March 2017 03:42:23 AM
not sure if you saw the previous posts all over this forum.... only 8% or 7% of people psssed the test I'm saying we can bring that percentage up. The average passing rate on a sgts exam is 10% if we take the time and protest questions we can hopefully bring up this percentage.
responding to Command Post is the supervisor first on scene's job. Patrol Supervisor's job is to assign MOS to direct emergency vehicles
An example of a protest that got a question thrown out on my 2006 exam was the new IO (at the time) effecting 210-04 Prisoners requiring medical/psychiatric treatment. All males admitted for psych treatment go to Bellevue, all females go to EGH. The question on the exam had a citizen telling a sector car he wanted to kill himself or something and they take him to the hospital. The hospital then says that he has to be admitted for psych reasons and the question said according to Interim Order ### revising 210-04 which choice was most correct? Only problem was was that the citizen was not under arrest nor was he a prisoner. The procedure referenced in the question did not apply and therefore all the choices were wrong.
You are correct. second sergeant on scene.....assign UMOS to direct responding emergency vehicles.....
Nvm confused with civil papers.
-- Edited by NauseousPBBN on Friday 3rd of March 2017 07:22:39 AM
Does anyone remember the DOA question?
Can't remember
Yeah that was the right one. I did the same as you. I kept thinking pat sup certifies cops activity log entries by putting date time rank and signature and comments. So I went with remove the body even though I knew he needed permission from ME and Detective investigating. Just figured maybe he had to get there permission if possible or something like that. Too much overthinking on my part. Everyone kept saying when you take the test go with your first pick. I Should have listened to people and just Went with my first pick.
yeah that makes sense. I'll continue to just read through these post and not mention any questions or answers. I am confused though. At this point are there still individuals who haven't taken the exam?
Ok. Good to know. Thanks.