Fighten0h and I discussed a couple questions that may be questionable. The first was who you notify in regard to an injury sustained by collapsed scaffolding. If the correct answer per DCAS is Dept of Buildings then that's wrong because the procedure applies specifically to injuries incurred while ON scaffolding. I'm almost positive that question didn't specify the aided was on the scaffolding. Furthermore, you would reasonably assume scaffolding is only at construction sites for which a notification would be made to Operations, also an available answer.
Fighten0h brought up the DWI driver crashing into the tree question. It seems like there's a contradiction in the procedure (208-40) itself. Here's what fighten0h said: "the procedure which is in 208 states in the the patrol supervisor will read a chemical testing statement to a driver if he causes spi or death to another/ OR causes spa or death to himself..
later on in the statement it says you will not apply for a chemical testing warrant to a a person if they cause only spi to themselves.. now maybe I'm being nit picky but i asked a bunch of people at my command including supervisors who agreed and said the procedure either needed clarification or the procedure is wrong."
Then there's the question missing the word "correct" and another which referenced 212 when the procedure was moved to 221. I'd imagine these are automatic tosses.
bignutz88 said
Feb 26, 2017
in regards the dep of building queqstion. Which procedure did th question lock you in to?
Thebirds said
Feb 26, 2017
Hmm, I don't know. Is there a procedure that addresses it other than 216-15?
bignutz88 said
Feb 26, 2017
yes. 217-12. i remember the question, I forget the procedure they locked us into. the addl data statement in 217-12 seems like a catch all statement.
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Sunday 26th of February 2017 07:47:43 PM
fighten0h said
Feb 26, 2017
What was the incorrectly cited question ? I'll be honest I don't remember that ..
But I'd also say does anyone have any input for the dept of buildings and dwi question ?
bignutz88 said
Feb 26, 2017
fighten0h wrote:
What was the incorrectly cited question ? I'll be honest I don't remember that .. But I'd also say does anyone have any input for the dept of buildings and dwi question ?
incorrectly cited question?
did your test ask you to state the incorrectly cited question for any of your questions?
Thebirds said
Feb 26, 2017
bignutz88 wrote:
yes. 217-12. i remember the question, I forget the procedure they locked us into. the addl data statement in 217-12 seems like a catch all statement.
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Sunday 26th of February 2017 07:47:43 PM
Huh, hopefully it wasn't 217-12 then, but it probably was. Oh well.
Nyfine said
Feb 26, 2017
I don't remember the question with the wrong procedure or the one that said "the most" but if someone remembers I'll fight it. I'm also fighting the Dwi with the tree, I ordered the warrant because it said Spi to himself. Then when I went home it said if he refuses you order the warrant......but it also states if he asks for a second test we can give the test first then he can have his private doctor conduct the test.He didn't ask for neither, in this question!!!! So I'm a bit confused on this one. Also the Marijuana question with waiting on the husband, was that a judgement question? I picked 5 mins.
-- Edited by Nyfine on Sunday 26th of February 2017 10:08:37 PM
bignutz88 said
Feb 26, 2017
none of the questions on my exam asked "state the incorrect procedure".
every single one asked to state the "most correct"
Also, there were variations to the map based on feedback I got from guys at my cmd.
based on these 2 facts, I think they made slight variations of the test.
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-- Edited by bignutz88 on Sunday 26th of February 2017 08:02:27 PM
Thebirds said
Feb 26, 2017
I personally didn't see the question missing the word "correct" or the question that referenced the wrong section, but multiple people have said they did see them.
bignutz88 said
Feb 26, 2017
Thebirds wrote:
I personally didn't see the question missing the word "correct" or the question that referenced the wrong section, but multiple people have said they did see them.
im telling you, i believe there were varied tests.
Where was the school located on your map? was it near the command or up north towards the top of the page?
Thebirds said
Feb 26, 2017
It was NE of the command, middle of the map I think
fighten0h said
Feb 26, 2017
Big nutz I meant the question that everyone is saying was 212 or suppose to be 221.. I didn't catch that on exam day..
bignutz88 said
Feb 26, 2017
Thebirds wrote:
It was NE of the command, middle of the map I think
my school was at the top of the page near the street that was blocked off.
bignutz88 said
Feb 26, 2017
fighten0h wrote:
Big nutz I meant the question that everyone is saying was 212 or suppose to be 221.. I didn't catch that on exam day..
10-4, me either.
Thebirds said
Feb 26, 2017
bignutz88 wrote:
Thebirds wrote:
It was NE of the command, middle of the map I think
my school was at the top of the page near the street that was blocked off.
You sure there wasn't another school? I could see that on this ****ed up test.
TenFour16 said
Feb 26, 2017
It seems like there was a variation of different exams ! Some In-baskets were slightly different. But I tell you what guys prepare for something crazy. I DID NOT have a question that ended in "most" only. I am 100% sure of it because I was paranoid making sure they all said "most correct". I am simply going by what ive heard from many.
If this is the case, and tests were different, there is no way in hell that the people who had the error in their exam can get the point while the people who didnt will not. Every throwout will have to be a curve, if not, something has to be done about that .... thats a lawsuit.
Arrow said
Feb 26, 2017
-- Edited by Arrow on Sunday 26th of February 2017 08:35:43 PM
-- Edited by Arrow on Tuesday 28th of February 2017 12:44:35 PM
bignutz88 said
Feb 26, 2017
one in bssket had an aided being 60 (assault 3). another had him being 66 (assault 2)
DeezNutz said
Feb 26, 2017
bignutz88 wrote:
Thebirds wrote:
It was NE of the command, middle of the map I think
my school was at the top of the page near the street that was blocked off.
The school was just north of the command and there was a closure right in front. I believe some emergency repair in the street.
Arrow said
Feb 26, 2017
I remember the 60 but not the 66
Arrow said
Feb 26, 2017
Yes there was construction in front of the school you couldn't go through that street
TenFour16 said
Feb 26, 2017
The age of the aided was of huge debate the night after that exam.
Gk06 said
Feb 26, 2017
Nyfine wrote:
I don't remember the question with the wrong procedure or the one that said "the most" but if someone remembers I'll fight it. I'm also fighting the Dwi with the tree, I ordered the warrant because it said Spi to himself. Then when I went home it said if he refuses you order the warrant......but it also states if he asks for a second test we can give the test first then he can have his private doctor conduct the test.He didn't ask for neither, in this question!!!! So I'm a bit confused on this one. Also the Dwi question with waiting on the husband, was that a judgement question? I picked 5 mins.
Dwi waiting for husband???????not 221.05?
bignutz88 said
Feb 26, 2017
is it possible DCAS can have no throw outs?
Gk06 said
Feb 26, 2017
Gk06 wrote:
Nyfine wrote:
I don't remember the question with the wrong procedure or the one that said "the most" but if someone remembers I'll fight it. I'm also fighting the Dwi with the tree, I ordered the warrant because it said Spi to himself. Then when I went home it said if he refuses you order the warrant......but it also states if he asks for a second test we can give the test first then he can have his private doctor conduct the test.He didn't ask for neither, in this question!!!! So I'm a bit confused on this one. Also the Dwi question with waiting on the husband, was that a judgement question? I picked 5 mins.
Dwi waiting for husband???????not 221.05?
Doesn't spi need to be anyone other then driver??
Finest7578 said
Feb 26, 2017
What about the diplomat ? I'm assuming I wasn't supposed to bring him back to
The SH ? Then verify his identity ?
JPAL91091 said
Feb 26, 2017
With that dwi questions I believe it was worded... he can have a private physician test him after our test is administered... there really isn't anything false about that.. and in the dept of building questions.. I thought it was referred to as from 217..
But like you guys and many others are saying it is most correct for 90% of these so maybe dcas was thinking the same way some of us were thinking
Arrow said
Feb 26, 2017
Gk06 wrote:
Nyfine wrote:
I don't remember the question with the wrong procedure or the one that said "the most" but if someone remembers I'll fight it. I'm also fighting the Dwi with the tree, I ordered the warrant because it said Spi to himself. Then when I went home it said if he refuses you order the warrant......but it also states if he asks for a second test we can give the test first then he can have his private doctor conduct the test.He didn't ask for neither, in this question!!!! So I'm a bit confused on this one. Also the Dwi question with waiting on the husband, was that a judgement question? I picked 5 mins.
Dwi waiting for husband???????not 221.05?
You're right GK that was a 221.5 question.
Gk06 said
Feb 26, 2017
Did anyone need to darp one car and dept tow the 16 auto
Arrow said
Feb 26, 2017
-- Edited by Arrow on Tuesday 28th of February 2017 12:45:38 PM
Finest7578 said
Feb 26, 2017
Yes I remember it being 221 I chose reasonable amount of time
Arrow said
Feb 26, 2017
Gk06 wrote:
Did anyone need to darp one car and dept tow the 16 auto
I dropped that easy question. I mistead it. Just the 16 vehicle
Finest7578 said
Feb 26, 2017
I only choose to dept tow one ... I was under the impression the other vehicle was driveable
Gk06 said
Feb 26, 2017
Me too
Gk06 said
Feb 26, 2017
I'm the only one that said to tow two cars I was wrong I guess
Finest7578 said
Feb 26, 2017
Family offense question was the boyfriend taking her car not grand larceny 4 th ?
Arrow said
Feb 26, 2017
did the question for the critically injured person had a double answer or was there 1 correct answer?
JPAL91091 said
Feb 26, 2017
Wasn't it just t-6
Finest7578 said
Feb 26, 2017
Yes t6, I feel like the answer said both collision technician group and collision investigation squad
Arrow said
Feb 26, 2017
Finest7578 wrote:
Family offense question was the boyfriend taking her car not grand larceny 4 th ?
Wasn't the that answer for that question that the son puch the mother?
Finest7578 said
Feb 26, 2017
Assault 2 cousin with a baseball bat ?
Nicholasjames65 said
Feb 26, 2017
I know a lot of people in my command were going back and forth with the force figures. 31 or 33 ?? How about the foot post ?? Those two questions are still bothering me. That inbasket was rough
fighten0h said
Feb 26, 2017
I said t6
Arrow said
Feb 26, 2017
Finest7578 wrote:
Yes t6, I feel like the answer said both collision technician group and collision investigation squad
No. The answer had it separate. I was like What the F***! Cuz it's pds/cis/CTG are 3 togeTher
Finest7578 said
Feb 26, 2017
I put 31 and completely guessed on the foot posts
Gk06 said
Feb 26, 2017
Finest7578 wrote:
Assault 2 cousin with a baseball bat ?
17 yo with bat where they asking concurrent jurisdiction
Finest7578 said
Feb 26, 2017
@arrow that's what I meant , two separate answers that both contain correct answers
Finest7578 said
Feb 26, 2017
What about the robbery with a firearm
Arrow said
Feb 26, 2017
Finest7578 wrote:
@arrow that's what I meant , two separate answers that both contain correct answers
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-- Edited by Arrow on Tuesday 28th of February 2017 12:47:40 PM
Fighten0h and I discussed a couple questions that may be questionable. The first was who you notify in regard to an injury sustained by collapsed scaffolding. If the correct answer per DCAS is Dept of Buildings then that's wrong because the procedure applies specifically to injuries incurred while ON scaffolding. I'm almost positive that question didn't specify the aided was on the scaffolding. Furthermore, you would reasonably assume scaffolding is only at construction sites for which a notification would be made to Operations, also an available answer.
Fighten0h brought up the DWI driver crashing into the tree question. It seems like there's a contradiction in the procedure (208-40) itself. Here's what fighten0h said: "the procedure which is in 208 states in the the patrol supervisor will read a chemical testing statement to a driver if he causes spi or death to another/ OR causes spa or death to himself..
later on in the statement it says you will not apply for a chemical testing warrant to a a person if they cause only spi to themselves.. now maybe I'm being nit picky but i asked a bunch of people at my command including supervisors who agreed and said the procedure either needed clarification or the procedure is wrong."
Then there's the question missing the word "correct" and another which referenced 212 when the procedure was moved to 221. I'd imagine these are automatic tosses.
yes. 217-12. i remember the question, I forget the procedure they locked us into. the addl data statement in 217-12 seems like a catch all statement.
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Sunday 26th of February 2017 07:47:43 PM
But I'd also say does anyone have any input for the dept of buildings and dwi question ?
incorrectly cited question?
did your test ask you to state the incorrectly cited question for any of your questions?
Huh, hopefully it wasn't 217-12 then, but it probably was. Oh well.
I don't remember the question with the wrong procedure or the one that said "the most" but if someone remembers I'll fight it. I'm also fighting the Dwi with the tree, I ordered the warrant because it said Spi to himself. Then when I went home it said if he refuses you order the warrant......but it also states if he asks for a second test we can give the test first then he can have his private doctor conduct the test.He didn't ask for neither, in this question!!!! So I'm a bit confused on this one. Also the Marijuana question with waiting on the husband, was that a judgement question? I picked 5 mins.
-- Edited by Nyfine on Sunday 26th of February 2017 10:08:37 PM
none of the questions on my exam asked "state the incorrect procedure".
every single one asked to state the "most correct"
Also, there were variations to the map based on feedback I got from guys at my cmd.
based on these 2 facts, I think they made slight variations of the test.
-
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Sunday 26th of February 2017 08:02:27 PM
im telling you, i believe there were varied tests.
Where was the school located on your map? was it near the command or up north towards the top of the page?
my school was at the top of the page near the street that was blocked off.
10-4, me either.
You sure there wasn't another school? I could see that on this ****ed up test.
If this is the case, and tests were different, there is no way in hell that the people who had the error in their exam can get the point while the people who didnt will not. Every throwout will have to be a curve, if not, something has to be done about that .... thats a lawsuit.
-- Edited by Arrow on Sunday 26th of February 2017 08:35:43 PM
-- Edited by Arrow on Tuesday 28th of February 2017 12:44:35 PM
The school was just north of the command and there was a closure right in front. I believe some emergency repair in the street.
I remember the 60 but not the 66
Yes there was construction in front of the school you couldn't go through that street
Dwi waiting for husband???????not 221.05?
Doesn't spi need to be anyone other then driver??
The SH ? Then verify his identity ?
But like you guys and many others are saying it is most correct for 90% of these so maybe dcas was thinking the same way some of us were thinking
You're right GK that was a 221.5 question.
-- Edited by Arrow on Tuesday 28th of February 2017 12:45:38 PM
I dropped that easy question. I mistead it. Just the 16 vehicle
Me too
I'm the only one that said to tow two cars I was wrong I guess
did the question for the critically injured person had a double answer or was there 1 correct answer?
Wasn't the that answer for that question that the son puch the mother?
No. The answer had it separate. I was like What the F***! Cuz it's pds/cis/CTG are 3 togeTher
17 yo with bat where they asking concurrent jurisdiction
@arrow that's what I meant , two separate answers that both contain correct answers
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-- Edited by Arrow on Tuesday 28th of February 2017 12:47:40 PM