We should probably plan for worst case scenario. Let's get a head count of who's interested in a lawsuit for if we do not get promoted.
-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:33:14 PM
ltexm2015 said
Mar 24, 2016
IM IN
bigfoot45 said
Mar 24, 2016
I don't see this happening.... not even a 1 percent chance that we don't get promoted. If it does happen I have no problem taking the lead with Devil dog.
Nikkydenimblue said
Mar 24, 2016
I am obviously in.
Devil Dog said
Mar 24, 2016
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-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:34:07 PM
Nikkydenimblue said
Mar 24, 2016
This is unreal.
IShredMajors said
Mar 24, 2016
I'd be in as well.
johnnybigtime said
Mar 24, 2016
In. Every penny I have.
92Fot said
Mar 24, 2016
Hopefully this will only cause delays. If it is worse, count me in.
IShredMajors said
Mar 24, 2016
They got 9 sergeants. We could easily get 100 on the other side.
Jabronijoe29 said
Mar 24, 2016
Im in
scheduleB_magnet said
Mar 24, 2016
IN! I don't care how much I have to shell out.
Hairbag said
Mar 24, 2016
They can't prove any cheating on the original test than there was on any other promotional test. Can't see how they won't promote the 164 original passers
RMP6969 said
Mar 24, 2016
I'm in as well.
DETSGT said
Mar 24, 2016
Don't think we'll get screwed like that.
But if we do, I'm in.
wisecop said
Mar 24, 2016
The media is monitoring the site another article on the daily news this time about the Muslim captain
sixmonthwonder said
Mar 24, 2016
If they throw the test I'm vesting out. This is nuts.
wisecop said
Mar 24, 2016
I'm happy the free ride is ending for all the alternate test cheaters
sixmonthwonder said
Mar 24, 2016
wisecop wrote:
The media is monitoring the site another article on the daily news this time about the Muslim captain
They must be sick of seeing my dancing Darth Vader by now.
wisecop said
Mar 25, 2016
At least the Post article is partially truth, except for the part when u fail the original and pass the make up. That's a lie from the lawsuit
Su Madre 24 said
Mar 25, 2016
I just got back from doing cardio. I can't believe what I'm seeing. This is absolute madness.
The people who busted their hump and passed shouldn't be penalized
Devil Dog said
Mar 25, 2016
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-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:34:53 PM
DETSGT said
Mar 25, 2016
wisecop wrote:
I'm happy the free ride is ending for all the alternate test cheaters
I don't think it is. It'll reduce some but not all. The Sabbath observers aren't gonna say "hey I'm not that religious so ill take the test on the original date". And reservists will still get orders for weekend drill. In the end this lawsuit will only serve to embarrass the dept, and delay the promotions for this list, which will subsequently delay the next Lt test.
Nikkydenimblue said
Mar 25, 2016
I just want to get promoted. I gave up so much, we gave up so much. These nine sgts, what are they getting out of this??? They throw the test out?? You still failed. What's the point? Lying about cheating for our exam day is insane.
machine said
Mar 25, 2016
All you "True Elite" (patrol Sgts) even "Regular Elite" (acronyms units) will get made... just take one for the team and wait a bit longer for that promotion. Do it for your predecessors and for all future exams coming up...let's stick together a bit longer.
Nothing might even come from the lawsuit, but it has certainly gotten the attention of the Job and DCAS... They should be ashamed of themselves for allowing that Capt create such a f*cked up test and not allowing 1 change of the 19 submitted.
-- Edited by machine on Friday 25th of March 2016 12:35:58 AM
wisecop said
Mar 25, 2016
DETSGT wrote:
wisecop wrote:
I'm happy the free ride is ending for all the alternate test cheaters
I don't think it is. It'll reduce some but not all. The Sabbath observers aren't gonna say "hey I'm not that religious so ill take the test on the original date". And reservists will still get orders for weekend drill. In the end this lawsuit will only serve to embarrass the dept, and delay the promotions for this list, which will subsequently delay the next Lt test.
I think that the test will be given a weekday and military scammers will have to sign an availability waiver prior to signing on to the test in addition if ur not incapacitated ur taking the test.
wisecop said
Mar 25, 2016
machine wrote:
All you "True Elite" even Regular Elite will get made... just take one for the team and wait a bit longer for that promotion. Do it for your predecessors and for all future exams coming up...let's stick together a bit longer.
Nothing might even come from the lawsuit, but it has certainly gotten the attention of the Job and DCAS... They should be ashamed of themselves for allowing that Capt create such a f*cked up test and not allowing 1 change of the 19 submitted.
Agree just picture a huge class mixed with the scammers we can give me all wedgies
Su Madre 24 said
Mar 25, 2016
I strongly believe this won't be thrown out. If anything it'll delay people promotions a bit...which is still ****ed up.
Absolute madness
mjehangir96 said
Mar 25, 2016
machine wrote:
All you "True Elite" even Regular Elite will get made... just take one for the team and wait a bit longer for that promotion. Do it for your predecessors and for all future exams coming up...let's stick together a bit longer.
Nothing might even come from the lawsuit, but it has certainly gotten the attention of the Job and DCAS... They should be ashamed of themselves for allowing that Capt create such a f*cked up test and not allowing 1 change of the 19 submitted.
Finally someone sane has spoken. agreed 100%
wisecop said
Mar 25, 2016
I'm very happy we keep the topic alive even with the asterisks list, it was easier to just eat it and wait for he pity promo. Change was due.
Lu515 said
Mar 25, 2016
IShredMajors wrote:
They got 9 sergeants. We could easily get 100 on the other side.
.....
-- Edited by Lu515 on Friday 25th of March 2016 12:21:23 AM
F_da_Scammers said
Mar 25, 2016
Count me in as part of the lawsuit too if we get penalized for the scammers
sixmonthwonder said
Mar 25, 2016
Now that Vuccinaj has embarrassed the Department on an almost national level he needs to be given a below standards eval by his superiors and put on dismissal probation. This guy wrote the worst test in NYPD history, people have been dismissed for much less. This is all his fault.
wisecop said
Mar 25, 2016
I contacted the SBA and they ignored me...They take our dues they should get us a good lawyer
Lu515 said
Mar 25, 2016
wisecop wrote:
I contacted the SBA and they ignored me...They take our dues they should get us a good lawyer
Guy F@ck the SBA. They don't give a sh!t about us...
sixmonthwonder said
Mar 25, 2016
Honestly if you guys get a lawyer I'm in, so are a few of my friends who passed. Also anyone who gets on the stand and says there was "bathroom cheating" on test day needs to be charged with perjury.
People who actually studied would never take that sort of risk and anyone who didn't wouldn't even know how to navigate those questions.
wisecop said
Mar 25, 2016
They're going to help and earn their checks unless they want the post on their case
Nikkydenimblue said
Mar 25, 2016
To even suggest that with a 5% passing rate is ludicrous. Had there been rampant cheating and people discussing exams questions in the bathroom more than 164 people would have passed. Including those nine sgts who are putting their integrity on the line BC they are a bunch of tit babies and failed this test.
Samiam32 said
Mar 25, 2016
SBA Can not get involved. It's a conflict of interest. Representing some sergeants will
Hurt other sergeants. They have to remain neutral
Devil Dog said
Mar 25, 2016
Samiam32 wrote:
SBA Can not get involved. It's a conflict of interest. Representing some sergeants will Hurt other sergeants. They have to remain neutral
Mullins already said it's not cheating.
Prop26 said
Mar 25, 2016
I'm in as well. Not fair that the original people who passed have to go through this ordeal.
IShredMajors said
Mar 25, 2016
Question:
Should we be using this forum as a means of advertising for every news article that pops up? The news is obviously looking here for information, and it's the lawsuit guys that are posting them all.
-- Edited by IShredMajors on Friday 25th of March 2016 01:02:05 AM
papote170 said
Mar 25, 2016
Why not promote those of us who passed the exam on the original Date, April 18... those who took the alternate exam should be skipped and not get promoted until the investigation is done ! It's not fair we have to pay because the alleged actions of others !
Suckerpunched said
Mar 25, 2016
I'm all in on the law suit too, count me in.
Suckerpunched said
Mar 25, 2016
Im with you a 1000%.
sixmonthwonder said
Mar 25, 2016
If this test is tossed they have to retroactively throw out every test for the past three decades. Demote the whole NYPD back down to police officers.
The ONLY difference between this exam and past exams is that it was unreasonably difficult and had flawed questions that for some reason were kept as correct.
Whoever made the call at DCAS to not accept the 19 changes needs to be forced to resign. That's what really caused this, everything else was 100% the same as past exams. So again, those exams all need to be tossed if that's the case.
Hairbag said
Mar 25, 2016
Sixmonth, you are spot on!
sixmonthwonder said
Mar 25, 2016
Hairbag wrote:
Sixmonth, you are spot on!
Devil Dog said
Mar 25, 2016
Depending on what happens Monday, we should be seeking counsel. Resources should not be an issue, we must find an effective way to communicate and organize. Then decide how to file suit vs the city for our much deserved promotion.
-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:36:39 PM
Winning25 said
Mar 25, 2016
My opinion... The test was so hard that the scammers could not blend in with the rest of the pack. Statistically impossible, such a difference in percentage of passers that took SAME exam on later date. Some definitely cheated it's all too obvious to us. If test had been straight forward or a ton of throwouts then the scammers would have had a better fit statistically with a long list. They could have blended better. The Captain and the lack of throwouts created this perfect storm to see what the cheaters that take makeups are doing. So as a person that struggled I'm happy for this exposure yet I'm sorry that the legit passers are martyrs to a system flaw that was never fixed.
We should probably plan for worst case scenario. Let's get a head count of who's interested in a lawsuit for if we do not get promoted.
-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:33:14 PM
I don't see this happening.... not even a 1 percent chance that we don't get promoted. If it does happen I have no problem taking the lead with Devil dog.
...
-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:34:07 PM
I'd be in as well.
They got 9 sergeants. We could easily get 100 on the other side.
But if we do, I'm in.
I'm happy the free ride is ending for all the alternate test cheaters
They must be sick of seeing my dancing Darth Vader by now.
The people who busted their hump and passed shouldn't be penalized
.....
-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:34:53 PM
I don't think it is. It'll reduce some but not all. The Sabbath observers aren't gonna say "hey I'm not that religious so ill take the test on the original date". And reservists will still get orders for weekend drill. In the end this lawsuit will only serve to embarrass the dept, and delay the promotions for this list, which will subsequently delay the next Lt test.
All you "True Elite" (patrol Sgts) even "Regular Elite" (acronyms units) will get made... just take one for the team and wait a bit longer for that promotion. Do it for your predecessors and for all future exams coming up...let's stick together a bit longer.
Nothing might even come from the lawsuit, but it has certainly gotten the attention of the Job and DCAS... They should be ashamed of themselves for allowing that Capt create such a f*cked up test and not allowing 1 change of the 19 submitted.
-- Edited by machine on Friday 25th of March 2016 12:35:58 AM
I think that the test will be given a weekday and military scammers will have to sign an availability waiver prior to signing on to the test in addition if ur not incapacitated ur taking the test.
Agree just picture a huge class mixed with the scammers we can give me all wedgies
Absolute madness
Finally someone sane has spoken. agreed 100%
.....
-- Edited by Lu515 on Friday 25th of March 2016 12:21:23 AM
Guy F@ck the SBA. They don't give a sh!t about us...
People who actually studied would never take that sort of risk and anyone who didn't wouldn't even know how to navigate those questions.
Hurt other sergeants. They have to remain neutral
Mullins already said it's not cheating.
Question:
Should we be using this forum as a means of advertising for every news article that pops up? The news is obviously looking here for information, and it's the lawsuit guys that are posting them all.
-- Edited by IShredMajors on Friday 25th of March 2016 01:02:05 AM
Im with you a 1000%.
The ONLY difference between this exam and past exams is that it was unreasonably difficult and had flawed questions that for some reason were kept as correct.
Whoever made the call at DCAS to not accept the 19 changes needs to be forced to resign. That's what really caused this, everything else was 100% the same as past exams. So again, those exams all need to be tossed if that's the case.
Depending on what happens Monday, we should be seeking counsel. Resources should not be an issue, we must find an effective way to communicate and organize. Then decide how to file suit vs the city for our much deserved promotion.
-- Edited by Devil Dog on Saturday 26th of March 2016 12:36:39 PM