I'm thinking they finish it off with another 45-55 followed by a down month in November.
tdcarlin1 said
Aug 27, 2015
153 in 1 months...methinks october will be a down month, november class, down december, class january...get through 1st 75 or so 2013 list
bluedragon said
Aug 28, 2015
Looks like 1639 next up on list, 23 left not including pass overs
zorimus24 said
Aug 28, 2015
i think they do sept. and Oct. with a larger class to fish off the list. if not i think no more down months for the 2011 list.
soccerpsyco32 said
Aug 28, 2015
I predict 55-60 for October which would kill off the 2011 and get about 40 deep into the 2013, followed by another 50-60 for Nov with Dec as a down month.
imgonnamkit said
Aug 28, 2015
I believe October going to be a down month. This is based on the fact that review board only doing 8 reviews next month. I'm a passover who is going to make it and they aren't calling me in. I suspect a down month then which is bad news for last 20 or so. Or bad news for me, the 23 get made, and the rest of us passovers wait with the start first class off next list. Just my opinion if I here any change with reviews I'll post.
6WIRE said
Aug 28, 2015
Does anybody know when the last time Oct was a down month?
Oooh-yeah said
Aug 29, 2015
Way too early to know... I count 25 left. 1663-1638= 25. Keeping my fingers crossed that everyone gets made and it goes by quick.
Wheresthelist said
Aug 30, 2015
There has been an oct class since this list has started
Oooh-yeah said
Sep 1, 2015
Cool thanks
finallymyturn said
Sep 1, 2015
No word on anything yet. Today is cims so regular instructors aren't with us.
6WIRE said
Sep 1, 2015
Thank you. Please keep us posted if they say anything
koolaid1234 said
Sep 1, 2015
With 30 vac 30 on tl and 52 in looks like oct coukd be a down month. Unless alot of sgts leave with all the details in sept coming up
Wheresthelist said
Sep 1, 2015
Thats not entirely accurate there is still 38ish Lt vacancies
soccerpsyco32 said
Sep 1, 2015
They are expanding the department by 1300 cops. That's roughly 125 more SGTs that have to be added. Those vacancy numbers don't reflect that. I'm betting October is still a go and still a sizeable 60 or so. They are also likely to promote a very large number of Lieutenant's later this month, something the vacancy numbers also do not account for. So add a large number of SGTS who are getting made to LT to that and then also account for the expanding headcount and logic would indicate that there will be a class.
-- Edited by soccerpsyco32 on Tuesday 1st of September 2015 07:17:52 PM
sgt2be said
Sep 3, 2015
i say down month for oct or small class. Now this is just my guess. I think there may be a big lt class and bmoc can not sustain a two classes bigger than 36. So if there is a sgt class bigger than 36 i say a lt class of 36. If they want more lts then a class of sgts of 36 or none at all. Just my guess though no solid evidence either way.
-- Edited by sgt2be on Thursday 3rd of September 2015 02:19:06 PM
6WIRE said
Sep 8, 2015
Has anybody heard anything yet?
finallymyturn said
Sep 8, 2015
No word yet here in BMOC
soccerpsyco32 said
Sep 8, 2015
Thanks for the updates myturn.
6WIRE said
Sep 9, 2015
Alot of chatter on the other forums. If there is a class would it go in on the 28th?
6WIRE said
Sep 9, 2015
Can there be a Capt, Lt and Sgt class in the same time?
soccerpsyco32 said
Sep 9, 2015
Sure, why not? If they really needed to, I'm a 1000% positive they could find a third room for 10-15 Captains. Where there is a will there is a way. The job is short in every rank right now and they're adding cops. I doubt "hey boss, we only have two rooms" will be enough to derail the hiring of SGTs, LTs, or CPTs. We can issue smartphones, implement body cams, and revamp the entire patrol model, but finding an extra room for 15 CPTs is gonna be the finisher for the job?? Lmao. Please.
sgt2be said
Sep 9, 2015
soccerpsyco32 wrote:
Sure, why not? If they really needed to, I'm a 1000% positive they could find a third room for 10-15 Captains. Where there is a will there is a way. The job is short in every rank right now and they're adding cops. I doubt "hey boss, we only have two rooms" will be enough to derail the hiring of SGTs, LTs, or CPTs. We can issue smartphones, implement body cams, and revamp the entire patrol model, but finding an extra room for 15 CPTs is gonna be the finisher for the job?? Lmao. Please.
actually it can bro...sorry to burst your bubble. Lts were cancelled last month due to same reason. Simple as this...bmoc is assigned certain amt of rooms. One of those rooms the projector doesnt work so it cant be used and wont be used by them. Then you have school safety...1200 recruits..and oh btw..another 700 recruits in oct. So yeah they can say no room and have done so numerous times in the past.
DETSGT said
Sep 9, 2015
Why haven't they fixed that projector yet?
fedup said
Sep 9, 2015
The same reason why the urinal in your command has been out of order for a year. No one cares
6WIRE said
Sep 9, 2015
So when would we hear a conformation about oct?
DETSGT said
Sep 9, 2015
fedup wrote:
The same reason why the urinal in your command has been out of order for a year. No one cares
How did you know about that urinal? Lol
sgt2be said
Sep 9, 2015
det its got to be more than just a simple fix....the sgt who deals with the projectors is very good and if it was simple as fixing it, it would be done.
soccerpsyco32 said
Sep 10, 2015
Ohh so even better. It's not the room. It comes down to a projector. Lmao. An entire building, projectors and all, sits vacant on East 20th street and we're canceling promotions over a projector LOL.
Leftbehind802 said
Sep 10, 2015
Lol there has to be a projector, somewhere, in some closet on a cart with a sign that reads "in case of emergency!"
Oooh-yeah said
Sep 10, 2015
Wtf!?!? I'll donate a freaking projector if they put a class of 60 in next month
DETSGT said
Sep 10, 2015
Oooh-yeah wrote:
Wtf!?!? I'll donate a freaking projector if they put a class of 60 in next month
I'll chip in with you. Let's get a Gofundme going for the projector
CoptoCapt said
Sep 10, 2015
6WIRE wrote:
Can there be a Capt, Lt and Sgt class in the same time?
It has nothing to do with space. There was a Capt class, Lt class, and a Sgt class all at the same time in Dec 2014. Capts and Lts were in two smaller rooms and the 40 something Sgts were in one of the larger rooms on the 6th Floor. There were actually scenarios where all three classes were present and critiqued the performance!!!
sgt2be said
Sep 10, 2015
I actually inquired about the space. Yes all three can and have been done. HOWEVER....I think it all has to do with how many companies for recruits/school safety will be in building. Asked the lt last month and there was s request for lts...however bmoc did say no due to no space.
CoptoCapt said
Sep 10, 2015
sgt2be wrote:
I actually inquired about the space. Yes all three can and have been done. HOWEVER....I think it all has to do with how many companies for recruits/school safety will be in building. Asked the lt last month and there was s request for lts...however bmoc did say no due to no space.
From what I was told, it was not about space at the Academy, it was because of the amount of promotees. They did not want to promote so many people because of the slotted times for promotion and the promotion ceremony becoming too long. I don't think that a Lt at the Police Academy has the overall authority over when promotions happen. If they want to promote, they will promote and FIND the space. In April, there were 42 Lts in a small room like sardines. Also, I don't think they hold any recruit classes on the 6th floor which is where they conduct the leadership courses!
-- Edited by CoptoCapt on Thursday 10th of September 2015 07:24:17 PM
6WIRE said
Sep 10, 2015
So I guess we will know something next week
-- Edited by 6WIRE on Thursday 10th of September 2015 06:53:49 PM
Winning25 said
Sep 10, 2015
Two months of Sgts back to back. I think October is a down month. They cancelled Lt's last month because of too many discretionary promotion. They'll not put Sgt's in October because not enough classrooms. It should be Captains and Lieutenants and November or December more Sgt'.
Oooh-yeah said
Sep 11, 2015
No I think there will be a sgt's class All BS rumors until confirmed! Not saying it's definite but they haven't had a down month in October in a while and the need for sergeants is there. If not oct then definitely November... I need Brat! Where is my angel Brat?!?
ManHands said
Sep 11, 2015
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but if they have 2 more down months before year's end, this will be the most down months ever in a year for BMOC. My point being, I predict there being ONE MORE DOWN MONTH before the year is over, and at least 2 more months of Sgt promotions. Whether that is OCT/NOV or NOV/DEC or OCT/DEC I don't know. But I truly believe one more down month is the most that we will see. The 2013 list will be WELL UNDERWAY before year's end.
tdcarlin1 said
Sep 11, 2015
Here's to 100 more promotions by years end! We can hope!
koolaid1234 said
Sep 11, 2015
1 more class this year with 60-70 Put it in the books
soccerpsyco32 said
Sep 11, 2015
About 280 SGTs promoted for the year INCLUDING the current class. The lowest amount in recent history. I call BS on any down month rumors but that's just my opinion. I say at least 100-120 more. 415 were made last year. 405 the year before, and like 470 year before that.
6WIRE said
Sep 11, 2015
Well all this speculation is great but some concrete info would be really great right now
-- Edited by 6WIRE on Friday 11th of September 2015 02:16:11 PM
sgt2be said
Sep 11, 2015
Asked bmoc sgt yest...said nothing as of yet...he thinks the 18th would be the earliest they would hear anything. Capt are going to happen...I think strong case for lts too..as for sgts I really haven't heard a thing
soccerpsyco32 said
Sep 11, 2015
Thank you for the updates sgt2be. If you hear anything solid send it our way.
-- Edited by soccerpsyco32 on Friday 11th of September 2015 02:33:37 PM
DEEZINEZ said
Sep 11, 2015
Havent heard anything in Bmoc about an October class. I can see them finishing up the list though next month. You guys will get made don't worry. The list doesn't expire until April 2016 so don't stress it. I'm hoping they put you guys in. Stay positive and do t listen to all the rumor. I'm in bmoc and I will keep you guys posted with honest info
EddieFrank said
Sep 11, 2015
What about the date? Did they change it from the 25th yet? I cant see them doing it that day.
Wheresthelist said
Sep 11, 2015
Promotion date it monday the 28th
finallymyturn said
Sep 11, 2015
Well that's news to me and everyone else in BMOC cause as of right now we were told it's still the 25th
What do you think
I'm thinking they finish it off with another 45-55 followed by a down month in November.
Cool thanks
Thank you. Please keep us posted if they say anything
With 30 vac 30 on tl and 52 in looks like oct coukd be a down month. Unless alot of sgts leave with all the details in sept coming up
They are expanding the department by 1300 cops. That's roughly 125 more SGTs that have to be added. Those vacancy numbers don't reflect that. I'm betting October is still a go and still a sizeable 60 or so. They are also likely to promote a very large number of Lieutenant's later this month, something the vacancy numbers also do not account for. So add a large number of SGTS who are getting made to LT to that and then also account for the expanding headcount and logic would indicate that there will be a class.
-- Edited by soccerpsyco32 on Tuesday 1st of September 2015 07:17:52 PM
i say down month for oct or small class. Now this is just my guess. I think there may be a big lt class and bmoc can not sustain a two classes bigger than 36. So if there is a sgt class bigger than 36 i say a lt class of 36. If they want more lts then a class of sgts of 36 or none at all. Just my guess though no solid evidence either way.
-- Edited by sgt2be on Thursday 3rd of September 2015 02:19:06 PM
actually it can bro...sorry to burst your bubble. Lts were cancelled last month due to same reason. Simple as this...bmoc is assigned certain amt of rooms. One of those rooms the projector doesnt work so it cant be used and wont be used by them. Then you have school safety...1200 recruits..and oh btw..another 700 recruits in oct. So yeah they can say no room and have done so numerous times in the past.
The same reason why the urinal in your command has been out of order for a year. No one cares
How did you know about that urinal? Lol
I'll chip in with you. Let's get a Gofundme going for the projector
It has nothing to do with space. There was a Capt class, Lt class, and a Sgt class all at the same time in Dec 2014. Capts and Lts were in two smaller rooms and the 40 something Sgts were in one of the larger rooms on the 6th Floor. There were actually scenarios where all three classes were present and critiqued the performance!!!
From what I was told, it was not about space at the Academy, it was because of the amount of promotees. They did not want to promote so many people because of the slotted times for promotion and the promotion ceremony becoming too long. I don't think that a Lt at the Police Academy has the overall authority over when promotions happen. If they want to promote, they will promote and FIND the space. In April, there were 42 Lts in a small room like sardines. Also, I don't think they hold any recruit classes on the 6th floor which is where they conduct the leadership courses!
-- Edited by CoptoCapt on Thursday 10th of September 2015 07:24:17 PM
So I guess we will know something next week
-- Edited by 6WIRE on Thursday 10th of September 2015 06:53:49 PM
Two months of Sgts back to back. I think October is a down month. They cancelled Lt's last month because of too many discretionary promotion. They'll not put Sgt's in October because not enough classrooms. It should be Captains and Lieutenants and November or December more Sgt'.
1 more class this year with 60-70 Put it in the books
Well all this speculation is great but some concrete info would be really great right now
-- Edited by 6WIRE on Friday 11th of September 2015 02:16:11 PM
Thank you for the updates sgt2be. If you hear anything solid send it our way.
-- Edited by soccerpsyco32 on Friday 11th of September 2015 02:33:37 PM
Havent heard anything in Bmoc about an October class. I can see them finishing up the list though next month. You guys will get made don't worry. The list doesn't expire until April 2016 so don't stress it. I'm hoping they put you guys in. Stay positive and do t listen to all the rumor. I'm in bmoc and I will keep you guys posted with honest info
What about the date? Did they change it from the 25th yet? I cant see them doing it that day.