Total number of double/triple answers and throw outs
Bmoc09 said
May 15, 2015
How many do you guys think will come from this debacle of an exam?
scheduleB_magnet said
May 15, 2015
I believe at the minimum: 45, 97, 115. I know others that protested other questions which may have double answers. There will be a few throwouts, not including the operations orders questions if they are thrown out. It will be a lot more than people are expecting. That's for sure.
tweezy said
May 15, 2015
question 61, 106, 89, 78
Su Madre 24 said
May 15, 2015
#106
SHOULD be a slam dunk throwout
-- Edited by Su Madre 24 on Friday 15th of May 2015 10:57:33 AM
PROVE IT said
May 15, 2015
Sumadre... Stop giving out answers
Su Madre 24 said
May 15, 2015
I never gave out answers
DETSGT said
May 15, 2015
I'm 100 % 45 will be a throw out. Their "correct answer" is incorrect
IShredMajors said
May 15, 2015
DETSGT wrote:
I'm 100 % 45 will be a throw out. Their "correct answer" is incorrect
Me too. This captain thinks he's so slick but he missed the basic premise of the procedure.
ondeeair2321 said
May 15, 2015
i believe between 5-9 throwouts/doubles. this seems like a HUGE amount. on this exam it is not. 89 is definite--you cant understand it. 1 is definite double. 61 is wrong. and guess what--i got two of those right. go figure. but there will be throwouts/doubles.i saw guys and the info i got about capt insano s air tightness was not true. he tried too much trickery. i am out pretty much---but after protest there is no way they can keep some of those. you know why? this chicken s**t city errors on the side of caution and those are lawsuits. yes, they always happen. but those answers are easier to throw out then the lawsuit bologna and bad press that will come. my buddy didn tell me this---i saw it. and of course i d have a good sum of those right. good luck to all. i d say 65 and over dont feel so bad--not false hope. ur in it. we ll see
UC5673 said
May 15, 2015
Just a crazy thought. Suppose they just curve the test at 65 with no throw outs/double answers, would that be fair? How many bodies would they get?
New2this said
May 15, 2015
Can someone explain why no one believes the operations order questions will be thrown out? Not listed on the NOE. It's like them testing the patrol guide and not putting it on the NOE. I think a lazy person at DCAS copied the 2011 lt exam NOE and thus screwed up. 2006 LT exam had it listed.
17,18,27, and 79. I protest that one as well as number one. I ripped #1 apart and could not understand why they thought their answer was better than mine.
-- Edited by New2this on Friday 15th of May 2015 12:28:50 PM
-- Edited by New2this on Friday 15th of May 2015 12:34:19 PM
-- Edited by New2this on Friday 15th of May 2015 12:36:35 PM
Drstylez12 said
May 15, 2015
I need to pick up 8 points and with this test as many errors as it had hopefully I could make it
Bklyn net said
May 15, 2015
I thought a couple of my answers were better than there answers we shall see
DETSGT said
May 15, 2015
IShredMajors wrote:
DETSGT wrote:
I'm 100 % 45 will be a throw out. Their "correct answer" is incorrect
Me too. This captain thinks he's so slick but he missed the basic premise of the procedure.
Exactly. They tried to be too slick and out smarted themselves with the basics of the procedure.
GottaGetOut said
May 15, 2015
I agree with you DetSgt, #45 will be thrown out. The fact pattern contradicted the "correct" answer. I also think #54 will be a triple answer.
Bklyn net said
May 15, 2015
Had B for 54 .. hope that's a triple
DETSGT said
May 15, 2015
I got 54 wrong as well. What do you guys believe the triple answers will be??
GottaGetOut said
May 15, 2015
I believe that it will be A, B & C
TiNmAn said
May 15, 2015
I hope you are right about C but when I went to the session and looked it up C was clearly wrong. Happens to be that s the choice I picked. Hopefully it gets tossed. We wasted our time on a lot of these poorly written questions.
bigfoot45 said
May 15, 2015
I think choice D has a shot but C was def. wrong
Nikkydenimblue said
May 15, 2015
54 will be a throw out. I picked D and made a pretty good argument. I also did question number one in basket and got B again. Wrote an two page argument on why B is better than A.
GottaGetOut said
May 15, 2015
I also argued that B was a corerct answer for #1
Doggieloverwoof said
May 15, 2015
I argued 1 as a double answer as well. I protested 78 because they locked us in the wrong procedure. I am protesting #10 by mail. I will also protest #89 by mail.
EddieFrank said
May 15, 2015
I protested 35. I think it is wrong unless I am missing something.
Doggieloverwoof said
May 15, 2015
"78 the accident question where the old lady was the one getting a minor injury?" someone PMed me that? I don't remember a question like that? do u guys?
-- Edited by Doggieloverwoof on Friday 15th of May 2015 04:18:45 PM
mjehangir96 said
May 15, 2015
Nope I think someone is fishing for answers ....
96Times6 said
May 15, 2015
Yes, there was a question about on elderly lady who had a single car 53. I believe it was another one of those OO's that no one had heard before.
Su Madre 24 said
May 15, 2015
Drstylez12 wrote:
I need to pick up 8 points and with this test as many errors as it had hopefully I could make it
I think you gotta better chance playing the lotto
HardExam said
May 15, 2015
Actually C could have def been an answer for 54.. Me and 2 other people in Brooklyn protested that the scenario did not even establish what the question was referring to.. Therefore C could not apply.. C could not only apply the if the scenario was correctly spelt out.. Captain Dick Sucker tried to outsmart everyone and f*cked up the question..
GottaGetOut said
May 15, 2015
HardExam, I think I was one of the sgts discussing this question with you!
Doggieloverwoof said
May 15, 2015
HardExam wrote:
Actually C could have def been an answer for 54.. Me and 2 other people in Brooklyn protested that the scenario did not even establish what the question was referring to.. Therefore C could not apply.. C could not only apply the if the scenario was correctly spelt out.. Captain Dick Sucker tried to outsmart everyone and f*cked up the question..
I hope so cuz although I don't remember it I did pick C lol
sgt2be said
May 15, 2015
listen question 54 was just god awful. It was so poorly written, that i had to stare at it for 30 mins just to understand what the hell he was asking. I dont give a crap what dcas said, the question is BS! The relationship or lack there of simply could not be determined! I dont care what word they used, (Yes they used a P word to describe it), once you throw in that jealousy the guy felt, IT CHANGES THE WHOLE ANSWER. Now there is doubt about whether there is a certain defintion. I know im very vague, obviously im being for certain reasons, but you CAN NOT CAN NOT CAN NOT put that into a question without making it perfectly clear whether that defintiion exists or not. And to go further, if you have any question guide states to request someone who will get conferred with, but then it becomes a judgement situation.
Su Madre 24 said
May 15, 2015
I had 54 B
Hopefully my disgrace selection grants me a point via Hail Mary protest
sgt2be said
May 15, 2015
i think theres a good chance...one more to go su...then drinks are on su :)
Su Madre 24 said
May 15, 2015
Sgt2Be I need 3 Papo
Then it's drinks on me
sgt2be said
May 15, 2015
well i think 106 is a given....we just talked about 54....and im really liking 10 for a throwout....
Su Madre 24 said
May 15, 2015
106 shoiuld be a given
sharpie973 said
May 15, 2015
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-- Edited by sharpie973 on Thursday 28th of May 2015 01:52:29 PM
1METSFAN said
May 15, 2015
A couple us protested question number 7, we found concrete evidence that all the answers were correct and they wanted the incorrect answer.
Bklyn net said
May 15, 2015
Yeh I had B for that..
SonsOfXavier1997 said
May 15, 2015
just IMHO, i would say 1, 45, 54 are def doubles, and 89, 61, 59, and 106 are throw outs. i went to protest yesterday and feel pretty confident about those questions. yes--there are others---but those I really see problems. 89 grammar, 59 and 61 are WRONG---straight from the CCRG, and 106 is after cutoff. 78 does indeed cite wrong procedure, i looked that up myself. and no, i dont have buddies or know s**t this is just what i got from going to protest. however--at the end of the day yest i walked out with a 66. i couldnt play abra-cadabra with the answer key so for me this exam is over. if i read something down line with my name on it so be it, if not---whatever. but i would say there is very HIGH probability there will be 5-9 throwouts like people said, some stuff was simply wrong and im shocked b/c it shows these guys must ve been jacking off instead of fireproofing their exam
1METSFAN said
May 15, 2015
I had B too, all the answers were correct
GottaGetOut said
May 15, 2015
#7 will definitely be a throw-out!
New2this said
May 15, 2015
Operations order questions? Does anyone feel confident they will be thrown out? Anyone protest them?
NYC Devil Dog said
May 15, 2015
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-- Edited by NYC Devil Dog on Saturday 16th of May 2015 12:07:42 AM
IShredMajors said
May 16, 2015
NYC Devil Dog wrote:
I protested #35 AND #36. I protested 35 as a throwout and 36 as a double answer. You didnt miss anything on 35! They just added one word that made the answer an incorrect statement.
Don't think this will help many people. 118 out of 124 people on Gamblor's key chose the correct answer for #36. #35 was also a high confidence answer.
NYC Devil Dog said
May 16, 2015
EddieFrank wrote:
I protested 35. I think it is wrong unless I am missing something.
I also protested #35 AND #36. I protested #35 as a throwout and 36 as a double answer. You didnt miss anything on 35! They just added one word that made the answer an incorrect statement. Also if you recall for #35 and #36, they locked us into two different procedures making my answer for #36 as good as theirs.
-- Edited by NYC Devil Dog on Saturday 16th of May 2015 12:08:57 AM
NYC Devil Dog said
May 16, 2015
IShredMajors wrote:
NYC Devil Dog wrote:
I protested #35 AND #36. I protested 35 as a throwout and 36 as a double answer. You didnt miss anything on 35! They just added one word that made the answer an incorrect statement.
Don't think this will help many people. 118 out of 124 people on Gamblor's key chose the correct answer for #36. #35 was also a high confidence answer.
I hear you. I protested #1, #54 (although it was a complete cluster that should have been written in crayon) and #106 as well. Hopefully those help some people out.
-- Edited by NYC Devil Dog on Saturday 16th of May 2015 12:04:36 AM
Nikkydenimblue said
May 16, 2015
if anyone needs help with the exact wording of question 35 , 36 or 10 PM me my friend and I remember the questions almost word for word. 36 is a 100 percent a double answer. The answer was D but if for whatever reason you picked B lmk. I am fighting that one for a friend. They had a pretty similar error on the 2011 test. I know because i took the re-write and they said it ended up being a double answer.
scheduleB_magnet said
May 16, 2015
Can someone PM 35 please? I protested 10 other questions but I dont remember what 35 was and I got it wrong. I chose B. Thanks.
How many do you guys think will come from this debacle of an exam?
#106
SHOULD be a slam dunk throwout
-- Edited by Su Madre 24 on Friday 15th of May 2015 10:57:33 AM
Me too. This captain thinks he's so slick but he missed the basic premise of the procedure.
i believe between 5-9 throwouts/doubles. this seems like a HUGE amount. on this exam it is not. 89 is definite--you cant understand it. 1 is definite double. 61 is wrong. and guess what--i got two of those right. go figure. but there will be throwouts/doubles.i saw guys and the info i got about capt insano s air tightness was not true. he tried too much trickery. i am out pretty much---but after protest there is no way they can keep some of those. you know why? this chicken s**t city errors on the side of caution and those are lawsuits. yes, they always happen. but those answers are easier to throw out then the lawsuit bologna and bad press that will come. my buddy didn tell me this---i saw it. and of course i d have a good sum of those right. good luck to all. i d say 65 and over dont feel so bad--not false hope. ur in it. we ll see
Just a crazy thought. Suppose they just curve the test at 65 with no throw outs/double answers, would that be fair? How many bodies would they get?
Can someone explain why no one believes the operations order questions will be thrown out? Not listed on the NOE. It's like them testing the patrol guide and not putting it on the NOE. I think a lazy person at DCAS copied the 2011 lt exam NOE and thus screwed up. 2006 LT exam had it listed.
17,18,27, and 79. I protest that one as well as number one. I ripped #1 apart and could not understand why they thought their answer was better than mine.
-- Edited by New2this on Friday 15th of May 2015 12:28:50 PM
-- Edited by New2this on Friday 15th of May 2015 12:34:19 PM
-- Edited by New2this on Friday 15th of May 2015 12:36:35 PM
Exactly. They tried to be too slick and out smarted themselves with the basics of the procedure.
I agree with you DetSgt, #45 will be thrown out. The fact pattern contradicted the "correct" answer. I also think #54 will be a triple answer.
I believe that it will be A, B & C
I think choice D has a shot but C was def. wrong
I also argued that B was a corerct answer for #1
I protested 35. I think it is wrong unless I am missing something.
"78 the accident question where the old lady was the one getting a minor injury?" someone PMed me that? I don't remember a question like that? do u guys?
-- Edited by Doggieloverwoof on Friday 15th of May 2015 04:18:45 PM
I think you gotta better chance playing the lotto
HardExam, I think I was one of the sgts discussing this question with you!
I hope so cuz although I don't remember it I did pick C lol
Hopefully my disgrace selection grants me a point via Hail Mary protest
Then it's drinks on me
-- Edited by sharpie973 on Thursday 28th of May 2015 01:52:29 PM
#7 will definitely be a throw-out!
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-- Edited by NYC Devil Dog on Saturday 16th of May 2015 12:07:42 AM
Don't think this will help many people. 118 out of 124 people on Gamblor's key chose the correct answer for #36. #35 was also a high confidence answer.
I also protested #35 AND #36. I protested #35 as a throwout and 36 as a double answer. You didnt miss anything on 35! They just added one word that made the answer an incorrect statement. Also if you recall for #35 and #36, they locked us into two different procedures making my answer for #36 as good as theirs.
-- Edited by NYC Devil Dog on Saturday 16th of May 2015 12:08:57 AM
I hear you. I protested #1, #54 (although it was a complete cluster that should have been written in crayon) and #106 as well. Hopefully those help some people out.
-- Edited by NYC Devil Dog on Saturday 16th of May 2015 12:04:36 AM