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Detective Straight to Top Pay


I am aware that detectives go straight to top pay upon promotion to sergeant, for the reason that a detective would make less if they went to sergeant step 1. However, where is it written that a promoted employee can't make less?

Is this in a contract somewhere or the state/city civil service laws? Can anyone knowledgeable about this topic advise? I have attempted to do research on this but can't seem to find anything in writing.

 



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Why is this even open for discussion.

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Because if this is a rule or a law, it must have a source. Assuming you are a cop/sgt/lt/etc you should have at least some interest in the law and a large interest in pay and salary issues.

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1012by1 wrote:

Because if this is a rule or a law, it must have a source. Assuming you are a cop/sgt/lt/etc you should have at least some interest in the law and a large interest in pay and salary issues.


 Yah thats it.... hahahahaha



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1012by1 wrote:

Because if this is a rule or a law, it must have a source. Assuming you are a cop/sgt/lt/etc you should have at least some interest in the law and a large interest in pay and salary issues.


 Yah thats it.... hahahahaha


 What does this mean?

Anyone with knowledge of labor issues/ civil service law on the air?



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1012by1 wrote:

I am aware that detectives go straight to top pay upon promotion to sergeant, for the reason that a detective would make less if they went to sergeant step 1. However, where is it written that a promoted employee can't make less?

Is this in a contract somewhere or the state/city civil service laws? Can anyone knowledgeable about this topic advise? I have attempted to do research on this but can't seem to find anything in writing.

 


 YOU ARE NOT A COP! BEAT IT TROLL!!!



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Then why was I posting in the protest thread back in Feb/March?
Use some of the detective skills that apparently got you a shield in narco. What a joke.

If you don't know the answer to my question just move on. It's a pretty reasonable question about how the city and police department determines salary for new promotees. We are on a promotion board right?

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Do you think that posting on a public board makes you a cop? When you created your account with rising star, what credentials were used by the site owner to verify your identity? Did you scan your department ID? Did they call your command? I think not. & yes, i AM a detective and my innate detective skills tells me that your are NOT real police. Real cops get on this site to seek answers and guidance on the possible outcomes that this promotional exam will have on their professional & personal lifes. Instead you waste our time posting a frivolous topic. & if you are a cop, god-bless your sqd. You sir are simply a hater. Goodday!

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Sounds like this guy is upset detectives go to top pay, which is only a few grand, and he would have to wait 4 years.
Oh well.

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This is guy is the reason why we would be required to have a masters degree to take the test soon.

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NarcVan wrote:

Do you think that posting on a public board makes you a cop? When you created your account with rising star, what credentials were used by the site owner to verify your identity? Did you scan your department ID? Did they call your command? I think not. & yes, i AM a detective and my innate detective skills tells me that your are NOT real police. Real cops get on this site to seek answers and guidance on the possible outcomes that this promotional exam will have on their professional & personal lifes. Instead you waste our time posting a frivolous topic. & if you are a cop, god-bless your sqd. You sir are simply a hater. Goodday!

Sorry buddy, but you are way off. 

How the step progression works when we get promoted is very relevant to a lot of our lives. Trying to figure out the rules regarding this could be very important to many people, considering some are skipping steps. I am asking a question about where this rule is located so I could find out more info. I am not sure why asking this question would get me on anyone's bad side. I looked at the SBA and  previous DEA contracts but didn't see any provision there. 

In case you didn't know, many detectives were recently promoted before they had 18 months on track because the new detective contract added more steps to get to top pay so they were promoted early to be under the old contract. I am wondering how this will affect those getting their shield under the new contract.

This shouldn't be a controversial question, just looking for answers on contract issues.



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Right, but what does it matter in the grand scheme of things. Are you on track but didn't get made, and now will be under the new crap contract?

If so, call the DEA and SBA, and ask them. SBA is very helpful.

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What a troll. Go blow off loser. If your a cop u should of been a detective then u hateful loser!!!!!!

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What a troll. Go blow off loser. If your a cop u should of been a detective then u hateful loser!!!!!!


 If your

if you are*

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you should have*

Please work on your grammar for the next lieutenant's test.



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Its not written anywhere except the Contracts of the two unions on the pay scale.

By the definition of a promotion you cant take a pay cut on base pay. Maybe on OT.

This is only an issue because the first three steps in the Sgts Contract isnt a big jump in pay unlike the DEA contract. Look up the contracts and that will answer your question.

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Its not written anywhere except the Contracts of the two unions on the pay scale.

By the definition of a promotion you cant take a pay cut on base pay. Maybe on OT.

This is only an issue because the first three steps in the Sgts Contract isnt a big jump in pay unlike the DEA contract. Look up the contracts and that will answer your question.


 Thank you. Finally a non-hostile answer. I couldn't find the new detective pay scale on the office of labor relations site. I'm wondering how the new contract will affect the pay jump.



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Here ya go.  As for the rule of not being able to take a paycut from a promotion, I've always heard it was an obscure rule in the City Charter.  Which, in case you don't know, is a giant patrol-guide like book written in gibberish.  If you Google it it'll pop up but I think it's only an older, non-updated version.



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So does anyone know if this is still in affect? You hear so many different things. Ive heard you dont got to top pay anymore and you go to the next step which would still be a raise but not straight to top pay. Ive also heard that the sba is looking to do away with this from an sba delegate. Does anyone know for sure or have any better information or maybe has gone through this recently themselves?

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You go straight to top pay. 4th step sergeant pay is $90,685 and 5th step(top pay) is $109,360. 3rd grade detective and detective specialist pay is $93,497. 



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109 base pay walking in the door at lets say 10yr longevity?

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No. Base pay for top pay sergeant without longevity. 



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