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Captain Exam holdup mentioned


Saw this yesterday...

http://nypdconfidential.com/columns/2018/180702.html

 

NYPD Captain's Exam: The $1,487,100 Question

July 2, 2018

Whats with the NYPDs captain's exam? Thats the $1,487,000 question.

Click here to read what the police brass say about NYPD ConfidentialThats the figure the de Blasio administration paid a Virginia consulting firm to review and/or re-evaluate the exam, which was given last November.

According to Captains Endowment Association President Roy Richter, 541 officers filed to take the exam and 480 officers actually sat for it. 

Now, eight months later, there still is no list of those who passed. 

Click here to read the New York Times profile of Leonard LevittSo whats causing the delay? 

Turns out the Department of Citywide Administrative Services, known as DCAS, signed a three-year contract with Dr. David Morris of the Alexandria, Virginia firm of Morris and McDaniel in 2017, says NYPD Assistant Chief Patrick Conry. On May 15, according to the DCAS website, the city paid the firm $1,487,000.

Who and what prompted the review or re-evaluation, no one is saying. But within the department there are grumblings that the firm was hired to examine the validity of various questions on the exam for the purpose of increasing the number of non-white captains.

Ive heard those concerns expressed, said Richter. But, he added, There is no concrete evidence that this is the case.

Said Richter: DCAS hired an expert for a big dollar number. What was the purpose and what was it in response to? They are not giving out the reasons. That has led to a lot of speculation. 

Click here to read the Washington Post article on NYPD ConfidentialHistorically, said Richter, there has always been a conflict between DCAS and respective city agencies. That includes the NYPD. 

Said Conry, This is a DCAS operation. Its a DCAS issue. Testing is their purview. 

He said he did not know if anyone from the NYPD had prompted the review. Asked if police commissioner Jim ONeill had signed off on it, Conry said, I havent spoken to the commissioner and I dont intend to. 

He added that the department was not in dire need of new captains. There are only a single-digit number of openings, he said. He pointed out that the average time for posting the exams results is a year. Were within the normal time, he said. 

DCAS spokeswoman Jacqueline Gold declined to answer who made the decision to hire a company to review the exam and why it was felt such a review was necessary.

In an email she said, that Morris's and McDaniel's work with the NYPD is only one assignment covered by the contract. The company develops several exams for DCAS per year. The contract does not specify examinations that Morris and McDaniel will develop but instead provides that the contracts will be identified on a need-by-need basis. 

David Morris did not return phone calls to his office in Alexandria, Virginia.

Asked the status of the current exam, Gold said, We expect to publish the list sometime this summer.



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Interesting. Thanks for sharing

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Well, at least the list will be out in the summer (before Sept 21st)

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Hi. I was informed of my list # today. The person knew my score. I wasn't allowed any follow up questions. Johnnybigtime only tells truths.

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johnnybigtime wrote:

Hi. I was informed of my list # today. The person knew my score. I wasn't allowed any follow up questions. Johnnybigtime only tells truths.


 Care to elaborate any further? The rest of us would like any info you can provide sine its been pretty quiet on here...



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Anyone know: How long is the mentoring before promotion? And how long is the BMOC portion?

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2 weeks mentoring. 4 weeks bmoc. I have seen mentoring not go on before bmoc once though

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Isnt the Capt BMOC close to 6 weeks?

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Maybe thats including mentoring?



-- Edited by Capt4me on Wednesday 4th of July 2018 02:25:43 PM

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Thanks for the quick reply

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Anyone has any ideas when the list will be out?

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Heard end of July/August. I know this isnt much help but seems no date is set in stone atleast from what I can find out. Anyone else?



-- Edited by Capt4me on Thursday 5th of July 2018 09:31:54 PM

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Rumor only... class could be going in August 31st. So if it takes 2 weeks for mentoring and 1 to 2 weeks to vett the candidates. I would guess list has to drop end of July or first week of August. Only my opinion, not a fact.

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Rumor has it the list will be released in aug

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Are rumors the only thing there Is? Let's just give it a full year just to be safe and get a surprise when it just comes out one day early.

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Hearing list out next week. Hopefully its true. Just what I hear so pls dont hold me to it bc I never trust dcas

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Heard the same thing

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For what it is worth, which turns out to be nothing, lol, Ed & I have not heard anything concrete on the release of the list. Hang in there all.....best wishes to everyone as well!



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Thanks Tony, please keep us posted if you hear anything

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If this info does not pan out I will have no info that I will trust. Well see but Im pretty confident on it.

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I had heard that this Dr. Morris "expert" who is mentioned in the above posted article was involved somehow with the exam. To what extent, if at all, is not clear. If he and his company are involved, it could very well be the reason for the hold up. There are several persons from the lieutenants exam who have unexplained points added on to their score....no rhyme or reason to it though. At least with the sergeant there was an understandable method to it. It remains to be seen if any scaling of any sort will be applied to the captain list. Ed and I will be doing some FOIL requests with our "friends" at the wonderful DCAS to see what they are willing to share. Hang in there and we'll see what becomes of everything. Right now it seems all speculation unfortunately.



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