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ajvic21 · Senior Member

Throwouts & Tentative Release of List

Drstylez12 · Senior Member

ajvic21 wrote:
8 throwouts. List comes out March/April. No trolling here. Take it or leave it. Very reliable. Ive never posted false info, check it!

Hey buddy I actually heard the same info, is all throw outs or is that a mix of throw outs and doubles?

crap · Senior Member

If true, that would be an insane list size.

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

How could there possibly be 8 throwouts on that test? Seems way to excessive.

Rondean · Member

Hopefully the end is near. 8 Throw-outs would really help people's scores but, would make for a bigger list. hmm

-- Edited by Rondean on Monday 12th of February 2018 08:29:46 PM

ajvic21 · Senior Member

8 THROW OUTS.....I ASKED IF THAT INCLUDED DOUBLE ANSWERS, THERE WAS NO CLEAR ANSWER ON THAT, SO I DONT WANT TO SPREAD FALSE HOPE ON THE DOUBLE ANSWERS THING. IF I GET MORE INFO, ILL POST. BUT ID CONSIDER THE INITIAL POST VERY RELIABLE. GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE.

ajvic21 · Senior Member

I AGREE, BUT THATS WHAT I WAS TOLD. I MYSELF PROTESTED 2 QUESTIONS AT BEST.

ajvic21 · Senior Member

RBJ5154 wrote:
How could there possibly be 8 throwouts on that test? Seems way to excessive.

I AGREE, BUT THATS WHAT I WAS TOLD. I MYSELF PROTESTED 2 QUESTIONS AT BEST.

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

Are there any rumors of the size of the list with the number of throwouts being discussed.

sig226 · Senior Member

#fakenews

CappedOut · Senior Member

8 is a lot but you never know.

April sounds right for the release. I know it feels like eternity but it hasn't even been 6 months yet. I don't think dcas has ever released a list in under 6 months, so spring/early summer is a good bet.

Shotsfired · Guru

8 throw outs? The passing rate is going to be 97%. Lol.

Dresch58 · Senior Member

What?

ajvic21 · Senior Member

sig226 wrote:
#fakenews

Its reliable. Things can change, but as it stands, thats what is coming down. Im hopeful like the rest of you.

Brian Earl Spilner · Veteran Member

List is out in May ....promotions in June

2andDone · Veteran Member

Brian Earl Spilner wrote:
List is out in May ....promotions in June

Sounds like a serial killer last name

sig226 · Senior Member

ajvic21 wrote:
sig226 wrote:
#fakenews
Its reliable. Things can change, but as it stands, thats what is coming down. Im hopeful like the rest of you.

After cops took Sgt test and came to work the first thing that came out their mouths was that there are few questions double/throwout. As weeks and months went on it became clear in their view that exam wasnt that well written. Lt test, on the other hand, was from give me category. Ask anyone who scored 70 theyll tell you they cant think of any throwouts. Ask anyone how many questions they protested. 2-3 tops. The vast majority protested jack ****. Got their score, got up and left. Not one person on my protest day came with PG material. I could think of only 1 throwout. in inbasket. 61s questions

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

2andDone wrote:
Brian Earl Spilner wrote:
List is out in May ....promotions in June
Sounds like a serial killer last name

He may be a serial killer but i heard the same may/june thing from a reliable source. So ManHands but as predicted your feb list release is turning out to be fake news! Dcas hasnt even sent to prelim list over to be reviewed by the fit unit. As I have said numerous times...from that point it is a month's wait. So the way it is looking may and june seems more realistic..that is the same 10 month wait that the sgts had to go through

Theforceisstrongwiththisone · Guru

Thank you DCAS...a fine model of city government tax resources...thank god Im not a city resident/tax payer!

ajvic21 · Senior Member

sig226 wrote:
ajvic21 wrote:

sig226 wrote:
#fakenews
Its reliable. Things can change, but as it stands, thats what is coming down. Im hopeful like the rest of you.

After cops took Sgt test and came to work the first thing that came out their mouths was that there are few questions double/throwout. As weeks and months went on it became clear in their view that exam wasnt that well written. Lt test, on the other hand, was from give me category. Ask anyone who scored 70 theyll tell you they cant think of any throwouts. Ask anyone how many questions they protested. 2-3 tops. The vast majority protested jack ****. Got their score, got up and left. Not one person on my protest day came with PG material. I could think of only 1 throwout. in inbasket. 61s questions

I guess we will all just have to wait and see. I passed on info that was told to me. Period. (For the record I only protested 2 myself so when I heard 8, I was surprised as well)

sig226 · Senior Member

Another detail I forgot to mention there were 2 different tests. Or maybe 3.

Leslie · Guru

8 seems like a lot.. 1400 ppl passing with 3 throw outs is already a lot and thats what I last heard of. I havent gotten any further update in a couple of months though. Who knows though... DCAS threw a curve ball with the last Sgts list.

brooklynbacon · Guru

8 throwouts will have a list of 2000 people.

2andDone · Veteran Member

brooklynbacon wrote:
8 throwouts will have a list of 2000 people.

And a 80% pass rate

RBJ5154 · Senior Member

Cant see 8 throwouts. Way to straightforward of a test. That would also ensure to large a list. It would wind up causing many to die on the list.

ajvic21 · Senior Member

RBJ5154 wrote:
Cant see 8 throwouts. Way to straightforward of a test. That would also ensure to large a list. It would wind up causing many to die on the list.

After receiving that info....Thats my take on it.......make a huge list, avoid lawsuit for fairness of questions, and cut the list when they feel the need to. Or promote at a rate that people will die on the list.

BronxFriedRice · Veteran Member

ajvic21 wrote:
8 throwouts. List comes out March/April. No trolling here. Take it or leave it. Very reliable. Ive never posted false info, check it!

-- Edited by ajvic21 on Monday 12th of February 2018 08:40:31 PM

-- Edited by BronxFriedRice on Wednesday 14th of February 2018 08:39:24 AM

-- Edited by BronxFriedRice on Wednesday 14th of February 2018 08:40:01 AM

Shampoo · Veteran Member

BronxFriedRice wrote:
ajvic21 wrote:
8 throwouts. List comes out March/April. No trolling here. Take it or leave it. Very reliable. Ive never posted false info, check it!

-- Edited by ajvic21 on Monday 12th of February 2018 08:40:31 PM

-- Edited by BronxFriedRice on Wednesday 14th of February 2018 08:39:24 AM

-- Edited by BronxFriedRice on Wednesday 14th of February 2018 08:40:01 AM

LOL

tdcarlin1 · Senior Member

i have a 63 and I don't even want to pick up the points...I'd rather not be on the list then be on the bottom of a 2000 person list and not get called...

Failboat · Senior Member

I heard that they are going to keep list active for 8 years to get everyone made

TooSucio4u · Senior Member

Failboat wrote:
I heard that they are going to keep list active for 8 years to get everyone made

LoL

fodx · Guru

tdcarlin1 wrote:
i have a 63 and I don't even want to pick up the points...I'd rather not be on the list then be on the bottom of a 2000 person list and not get called...

You're better off. ENJOY YOUR CHART DAYS!

Nypdnypd3100 · Senior Member

Yes enjoy your chart days!*

*also enjoy being on patrol or sitting on the desk while your lieutenant is in the lounge watching movies or working out in the gym. Enjoy being assigned communications on the new icmt system that you cant hide from. Writing 49s, LOD paperwork, rmp accidents. Filling out 28s for your LT when he bangs out once a week. Doing vehicle checkpoints. Doing much more evals, annuals than a LT would do. Making less money. Making less money during retirement. Etc....but yes, dont forget those glorious chart days.

fodx · Guru

I can debunk just about every one of those points. Communications? Ok. LT banging out once a week? Not if he doesn't have the time which most don't, which takes me back to my point about chart days. LT in the lounge or the gym the whole tour? Those days are over, doesn't happen anymore. Evals, big deal. Making less money? NEGATIVE K. Lt's work 45 minutes a day for FREE. Equate that 45 min a day to the raise and its about the same as Sgt, BUT Sgts get chart days!! So, I repeat..ENJOY THOSE CHART DAYS

nupecop · Senior Member

So why get promoted then?

Drstylez12 · Senior Member

fodx wrote:
I can debunk just about every one of those points. Communications? Ok. LT banging out once a week? Not if he doesn't have the time which most don't, which takes me back to my point about chart days. LT in the lounge or the gym the whole tour? Those days are over, doesn't happen anymore. Evals, big deal. Making less money? NEGATIVE K. Lt's work 45 minutes a day for FREE. Equate that 45 min a day to the raise and its about the same as Sgt, BUT Sgts get chart days!! So, I repeat..ENJOY THOSE CHART DAYS

Yeah like a said before, you could keep the charts days Ill take my white shirt thank you very much! Bro do you know how many times I had to do a LTs job, plenty of times yeah the no chart days suck but I dont see any LT running back to give the rank back because they miss their chart days and again you could keep your chart days.

-- Edited by Drstylez12 on Friday 16th of February 2018 08:08:36 PM

Cathetel · Senior Member

Drstylez12 wrote:
fodx wrote:
I can debunk just about every one of those points. Communications? Ok. LT banging out once a week? Not if he doesn't have the time which most don't, which takes me back to my point about chart days. LT in the lounge or the gym the whole tour? Those days are over, doesn't happen anymore. Evals, big deal. Making less money? NEGATIVE K. Lt's work 45 minutes a day for FREE. Equate that 45 min a day to the raise and its about the same as Sgt, BUT Sgts get chart days!! So, I repeat..ENJOY THOSE CHART DAYS
Yeah like a said before, you could keep the charts days Ill take my white shirt thank you very much! Bro do you know how many times I had to do a LTs job, plenty of times yeah the no chart days suck but I dont see any LT running back to give the rank back because they miss their chart days and again you could keep your chart days.

-- Edited by Drstylez12 on Friday 16th of February 2018 08:08:36 PM

Sergeant is hands down the worst rank if you're on patrol, slow or busy command. Fodx, spend one week on patrol and see how you feel about chart days. Put it this way, I'd take a massive pay cut instead of being a sergeant on patrol. This promotion can't come soon enough.

I can see why a Lt wouldn't want to make Captain because it gets extrmely cut throat in that rank and beyond. Sgt to Lt is a no Brainer. Lt life is easiest one compared to all other ranks. I'll take a comfortable existence over the extra cash. Not worth the money to enter into the political arena of Captains and above.

-- Edited by Cathetel on Friday 16th of February 2018 10:05:06 PM

-- Edited by Cathetel on Saturday 17th of February 2018 12:26:50 AM

Shotsfired · Guru

I dunno, here is a crazy notion..stop being a bunch of zeros and get off patrol, Then you wont have to bitch and moan every two seconds.

-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 16th of February 2018 10:04:28 PM

Cathetel · Senior Member

Shotsfired wrote:
I dunno, here is a crazy notion..stop being a bunch of zeros and get off patrol, Then you wont have to bitch and moan every two seconds.

-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 16th of February 2018 10:04:28 PM

You will never admit this, but I'm sure you had somebody to get you in whatever charmed position you're in. I busted my ass for a top 50 score, no hooks here.

Also I can already tell you're a big time dooshbag by calling Sergeants on patrol "Zeros". This is exactly what is wrong with the job.

-- Edited by Cathetel on Friday 16th of February 2018 10:17:35 PM

-- Edited by Cathetel on Friday 16th of February 2018 10:20:21 PM

Nypdnypd3100 · Senior Member

You actually didnt debunk anything I stated. Sounds like you dont mind doing 49s, communications and evals. Also yes my LT some Days doesnt even get dressed, still happens. And banging out once a week or how ever often depends on how much time someone has, dont assume that no one has any time. And yes Ill work 45 min free, watching tv or working out.

2andDone · Veteran Member

Shotsfired wrote:
I dunno, here is a crazy notion..stop being a bunch of zeros and get off patrol, Then you wont have to bitch and moan every two seconds.

-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 16th of February 2018 10:04:28 PM

Im in a detail myself but lets be realistic, that has no bearing. plenty of great supervisors are stuck on patrol due to the politics of the job! ill take my promotion in any command they are sending me to and Ill have my chart days back quicker then most!

Cathetel · Senior Member

2andDone wrote:
Shotsfired wrote:
I dunno, here is a crazy notion..stop being a bunch of zeros and get off patrol, Then you wont have to bitch and moan every two seconds.

-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 16th of February 2018 10:04:28 PM
Im in a detail myself but lets be realistic, that has no bearing. plenty of great supervisors are stuck on patrol due to the politics of the job! ill take my promotion in any command they are sending me to and Ill have my chart days back quicker then most!

2andDone thank you for complete honesty about what it takes to get a detail on this job. POLITICS and such is life, and I'm totally fine with that. It's guys like shotsfired and his holier than thou mentality calling patrol sergeants ZEROES that piss me off. Comradarie is out the window with one way guys like this. I feel sorry for the patrol guys who get this superstar for the 6 months he's on patrol before he runs like a bitch to his hook for rescue, seen it time and time again.

PD2FD · Guru

Shotsfired wrote:
I dunno, here is a crazy notion..stop being a bunch of zeros and get off patrol, Then you wont have to bitch and moan every two seconds.

-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 16th of February 2018 10:04:28 PM

You sound like a guy that has NEVER done patrol his whole career. For you to call Sergeants on Patrol zeros shows that you're either a house mouse OR you'vebeen spoon fed your whole career. I'm sure you got to whatever "unit" you're assigned to by kissing ass and licking boots, I doubt it was by merit.

-- Edited by PD2FD on Friday 16th of February 2018 11:30:23 PM

-- Edited by PD2FD on Friday 16th of February 2018 11:30:46 PM

Drstylez12 · Senior Member

Shotsfired wrote:
I dunno, here is a crazy notion..stop being a bunch of zeros and get off patrol, Then you wont have to bitch and moan every two seconds.

-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 16th of February 2018 10:04:28 PM

Bro your a loser, I happen to be in a gig off patrol where for the most part my work load is cake but I much rather be a LT on patrol then be a sgt in a gig, so your statement is invalid,

-- Edited by Drstylez12 on Saturday 17th of February 2018 12:51:42 AM

-- Edited by Drstylez12 on Saturday 17th of February 2018 12:52:22 AM

Shotsfired · Guru

Wow, I really butt hurt a lot of guys on this forum lmao. Ive done, patrol and Ive done details on this job. All I read are people crying and complaining on a promotional forum, begging for that white shirt so you can flex your muscles and lay upstairs in the lounge. Its kinda funny and pathetic at the same time. We all passed a 100 question test, relax were not brain surgeons.

HeetMiser · Member

Shotsfired wrote:
Wow, I really butt hurt a lot of guys on this forum lmao. Ive done, patrol and Ive done details on this job. All I read are people crying and complaining on a promotional forum, begging for that white shirt so you can flex your muscles and lay upstairs in the lounge. Its kinda funny and pathetic at the same time. We all passed a 100 question test, relax were not brain surgeons.

The lounge is actually downstairs lol

Shotsfired · Guru

HeetMiser wrote:
Shotsfired wrote:
Wow, I really butt hurt a lot of guys on this forum lmao. Ive done, patrol and Ive done details on this job. All I read are people crying and complaining on a promotional forum, begging for that white shirt so you can flex your muscles and lay upstairs in the lounge. Its kinda funny and pathetic at the same time. We all passed a 100 question test, relax were not brain surgeons.
The lounge is actually downstairs lol

Some of us have to climb stairs to get to the lounge lol

PD2FD · Guru

Shotsfired wrote:
Wow, I really butt hurt a lot of guys on this forum lmao. Ive done, patrol and Ive done details on this job. All I read are people crying and complaining on a promotional forum, begging for that white shirt so you can flex your muscles and lay upstairs in the lounge. Its kinda funny and pathetic at the same time. We all passed a 100 question test, relax were not brain surgeons.

You sound like an astounding supervisor, your subordinates must love you.

The purpose of this forum is to discuss "promotions" and have a dialogue about whatever rank you wish to obtain. If it bothers you that people are looking to get promoted and better themselves (regardless of what the reason may be) perphaps you need to look in the mirror and tackle your shortcomings head on, instead of bashing others.

ohnoes · Senior Member

Shotsfired wrote:
Wow, I really butt hurt a lot of guys on this forum lmao. Ive done, patrol and Ive done details on this job. All I read are people crying and complaining on a promotional forum, begging for that white shirt so you can flex your muscles and lay upstairs in the lounge. Its kinda funny and pathetic at the same time. We all passed a 100 question test, relax were not brain surgeons.

*we're

Shotsfired · Guru

You guys are right though I used the wrong set of words. Sgts on patrol are not zeros. But the bitching and moaning about being on patrol on this board is constant. If you cant stand patrol then do something about it. There is plenty of movement in this department.

-- Edited by Shotsfired on Saturday 17th of February 2018 05:36:13 AM