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who cares? is this a pension forum??

how does no one have any rumor news on this list?!


 Get into ithp 50% 457 and 401 if you havent. 100x Better then the raise you will get as a Lt.



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Heard from the CO of the S.A.B that they wouldnt be promoting Lt until till April or May. No clue where he got the info. He stated Pcts were short Lt and thats why they want people to have 10 months in rank before even accepting paperwork.

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Heard from the CO of the S.A.B that they wouldnt be promoting Lt until till April or May. No clue where he got the info. He stated Pcts were short Lt and thats why they want people to have 10 months in rank before even accepting paperwork.


 SAB? 10 months in rank to be accepted to where. I dont follow..



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Supervisory Assignment Board. Prior to last month you were able to put Your application in with six months in rank. Now they want 10 months in rank before even accepting application. The co said the changes were made because lack of Lt in Pct and lack of an active list For Sgts and Lts. He said first class of Lt would be April or May. 



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Supervisory Assignment Board. Prior to last month you were able to put Your application in with six months in rank. Now they want 10 months in rank before even accepting application. The co said the changes were made because lack of Lt in Pct and lack of an active list For Sgts and Lts. He said first class of Lt would be April or May. 


 Thank you for the info!



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Some of us been there and done that already.  Change is good.

Besides, if your significant other works, you will be hoisted into another tax bracket.... Another thing to think about.  More taxes.  



-- Edited by 4th Time on Wednesday 27th of December 2017 04:48:52 PM


 Or you can lower your taxable income by increasing your defer comp contribution (37k total for 2018) therefore keeping you in the same tax bracket.  


 Are you suggesting the 401k pretax or Roth? Also, which is better, the 401k Roth or 457 roth



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Imo ithp > 50% > 457 pre tax > 401 pre tax

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457 Roth or pre tax is always better than 401k. Ultimately, they are almost the same thing with the main difference being  the 401k you can't touch until 59 unless you want to pay a penalty. With the 457 you can touch as soon as you retire without penalty.



-- Edited by RS2323 on Friday 29th of December 2017 08:15:55 PM

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Imo ithp > 50% > 457 pre tax > 401 pre tax


Pretty much on point.  But some would argue that the ability to reduce your taxable income with pretax 457 and 401k and invest simultaneously, especially since we are so highly taxed, can save thousands in taxes every year dependant on how much you're putting in, and this makes it comparable to the ITHP/50%.

 

They're all great and play a different role as an asset in your working years and planned retirement.



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Imo ithp > 50% > 457 pre tax > 401 pre tax


Pretty much on point.  But some would argue that the ability to reduce your taxable income with pretax 457 and 401k and invest simultaneously, especially since we are so highly taxed, can save thousands in taxes every year dependant on how much you're putting in, and this makes it comparable to the ITHP/50%.

 

They're all great and play a different role as an asset in your working years and planned retirement.


 Would have to disagree.  Ithp/50 is a guaranteed 8.25% return on your money compared to the volatility of the market.  Nevertheless, 457 and 401 are good buckets to continue retirement savings.



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List out by April?

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List out by April?


 Heard late March from an unverified source 



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Late march?! Try more like may or even june! I know it sounds crazy but dcas hasnt even reached out to the fit unit to add those points. Once they do we will get a clearer picture as to when the list will be established. Looks like the 10-month wait for the sgt exam will be the same for us. 10 months is the new 6 months.

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Dcas just doesnt care...we should all know this by now guys.

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Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:

Dcas just doesnt care...we should all know this by now guys.


 True



-- Edited by I-go-deep on Friday 19th of January 2018 03:24:43 PM

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Where is this bill Parcells character giving out info on the sgt classes

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Where is this bill Parcells character giving out info on the sgt classes


 Bill Parcells is the new BRAT...that guy is spot on with his intel



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Sorry to disagree!! Da Bratt will always be #1......... 



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Agreed...da brat has provide about a decade of reliable info. Couch parcells has already been around for two months. Time will tell..but for now he's just a two month wonder hairbag

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Late march?! Try more like may or even june! I know it sounds crazy but dcas hasnt even reached out to the fit unit to add those points. Once they do we will get a clearer picture as to when the list will be established. Looks like the 10-month wait for the sgt exam will be the same for us. 10 months is the new 6 months.


Good, I hope it goes to December even. Ive said it before, ENJOY YOUR CHART DAYS!!! 



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I stopped by Education Tracking yesterday and was told that you list would be coming out next month...don't know how if its confirmed or not but i'd imagine that they would be told so they could prepare...

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What would education tracking need to prepare for?

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What would education tracking need to prepare for?


 Getting the credit in line for the guys and girls that need the 96 credits



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I hope that info is on point. Fingers crossed!

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nice



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Anyone else hear the same?

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Heard the same from a pretty reliable source. List next month. Makes sense, in line with 6 months post test. I know DCAS doesn't care but at the same time we are closing in on 5-6 months with no active LT list and vacancies gradually increasing. I just can't see a later release date then next month...March WORST case. I would say a March LT class is realistic.

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What size list do you think we are looking at?

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What size list do you think we are looking at?


 lol



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What size list do you think we are looking at?


 1300



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If the LT list is half the size of the Sgts list, im curious to see the jobs approach in the next four years and how these promos will pan out. Dieing on a list would be depressing lol.



-- Edited by Futureauxiliary on Saturday 27th of January 2018 05:57:31 AM

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The 2006 list was approx 1300 people. So if our list is the same size, you can look at the 2006 list to figure out where you probably will end up on this list.

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well Im claiming military points so if I get my letter in the mail I will post it

because when that comes the list usually comes out 2-3 weeks later so im hoping  



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The 2006 list was approx 1300 people. So if our list is the same size, you can look at the 2006 list to figure out where you probably will end up on this list.


At what point did they cut this list? Did it even reach 800? 



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I think it got to almost 900

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The 2006 list was approx 1300 people. So if our list is the same size, you can look at the 2006 list to figure out where you probably will end up on this list.


At what point did they cut this list? Did it even reach 800? 


 It was a different job back in 06. The economy wasnt doing well so they werent hiring as much. Now the job has a lot more units to move supervisors into. You cant compare the 06 list to this future list. IMO they go through the whole list.



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The 2006 list was approx 1300 people. So if our list is the same size, you can look at the 2006 list to figure out where you probably will end up on this list.


At what point did they cut this list? Did it even reach 800? 


 I believe anything under a 78 was cut from the 06 list.



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The 2006 list was approx 1300 people. So if our list is the same size, you can look at the 2006 list to figure out where you probably will end up on this list.


At what point did they cut this list? Did it even reach 800? 


 It was a different job back in 06. The economy wasnt doing well so they werent hiring as much. Now the job has a lot more units to move supervisors into. You cant compare the 06 list to this future list as where it will possibly get cut. IMO they go through the whole list.


I agree  



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25isthenew20 wrote:

I stopped by Education Tracking yesterday and was told that you list would be coming out next month...don't know how if its confirmed or not but i'd imagine that they would be told so they could prepare...


 

What about TVB ?

 

 

 



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The 2006 list was approx 1300 people. So if our list is the same size, you can look at the 2006 list to figure out where you probably will end up on this list.


At what point did they cut this list? Did it even reach 800? 


 I believe anything under a 78 was cut from the 06 list.


 The 2006 Lt List was cut at number 755.  I don't know what the score was



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It was a 78


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Shotsfired wrote:
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The 2006 list was approx 1300 people. So if our list is the same size, you can look at the 2006 list to figure out where you probably will end up on this list.


At what point did they cut this list? Did it even reach 800? 


 It was a different job back in 06. The economy wasnt doing well so they werent hiring as much. Now the job has a lot more units to move supervisors into. You cant compare the 06 list to this future list as where it will possibly get cut. IMO they go through the whole list.


Very true. It was very much a different time. Still, though, the key to look it is average promotion per year. That's the real indicator. Consistently, over the last decade or so, it's been +/- 200 a year. If rumors of the list size are true, that would mean nearly double would need to get made over the 4 years to exhaust the list. Who knows. Maybe the job will add a few thousand cops meaning more supervision will be needed. Maybe they'll increase the amount of LT's the job needs because of new initiatives. Maybe there'll be a massive exodus of LT's (to be fair, it's unlikely. It's become a young rank over the last few years. But the rumored 200+ Captain list may work in our favor). Who knows.

But, I will say that IF history is any indicator and we use it as a gauge, it will be tough to estimate that the entire will get made. To what number? Who knows. As tough to stomach as it may be for some, it looks like some real luck and timing will be needed for those over 1k to make it. Hope I'm wrong, as I know how hard most people worked for this (this was my second one after the 2015 debacle), but you can't fight history and the numbers. Anyone who says "yes" or "no" as to everyone getting promoted is blowing smoke...there's no way to estimate that. By the time the list is near the end, a new Mayor and probably PC will be in power...so yeah, anything can happen that deviates from the norm. 



-- Edited by 63ASAP on Saturday 27th of January 2018 11:35:22 PM

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What would education tracking need to prepare for?


 Getting the credit in line for the guys and girls that need the 96 credits


 And exactly how would education tracking start getting credits in line if they dont even know who is on the list?! Ladies and gentleman..see this is how fake news starts. If the list was going to come out by next month both ed tracking and the fit unit would have reviewed/worked on it....both of which is not the case. From that point you would have to wait another month or so for dcas to review it before they officially release it to the dept. Believe me feb would be nice but not happening! More realistic is apr/may. And vacancies still havent shot through the roof...25 is the new 20.



-- Edited by Theforceisstrongwiththisone on Monday 29th of January 2018 01:58:48 PM



-- Edited by Theforceisstrongwiththisone on Monday 29th of January 2018 01:59:27 PM

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And as much as I hate to say 63asap is right. At this point in the game is becoming clear that a 1,000plus Lt list will probably get cut. What will be the cutoff score?....who knows. All i know is that a lot of military guys are using their Veteran credits. Sucks for me but good for them...they put their foot to ass for this country. And after capt. Insano's 2015 exam they deserve this more than anyone.

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Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:
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What would education tracking need to prepare for?


 Getting the credit in line for the guys and girls that need the 96 credits


 And exactly how would education tracking start getting credits in line if they dont even know who is on the list?! Ladies and gentleman..see this is how fake news starts. If the list was going to come out by next month both ed tracking and the fit unit would have reviewed/worked on it....both of which is not the case. From that point you would have to wait another month or so for dcas to review it before they officially release it to the dept. Believe me feb would be nice but not happening! More realistic is apr/may. And vacancies still havent shot through the roof...25 is the new 20.



-- Edited by Theforceisstrongwiththisone on Monday 29th of January 2018 01:58:48 PM



-- Edited by Theforceisstrongwiththisone on Monday 29th of January 2018 01:59:27 PM


 confuse

Um

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Could it be that education tracking unit meant that they have already reviewed the list and submitted it and it should be released next month since they are done with it??? Maybe the poster misunderstood.

 

List will be out next month



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Make sure everyone knows who started the feb rumor first. When feb comes and goes remember ManHands started this fake news!

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Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:

Make sure everyone knows who started the feb rumor first. When feb comes and goes remember ManHands started this fake news!


 Bro Ive been on the form for a long time and the only fake news is you lol, your just mad because all your info is wrong, bro you havent been on point in years, all you do is agree with the Gurus, go home ondeair your drunk  lmfao



-- Edited by Drstylez12 on Monday 29th of January 2018 05:50:27 PM

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Just my opinion... but I don't think this list will mirror the 2006 list. It may have a similar number of passers), but I think this list will have more people in the upper 90's. On the 2006 list, there were only about a hundred people above 90.

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Cappped,

What does that have to do with the number of people that will be promoted of this list.  I don't see the relation. Please explain...



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I dont think the guy is trying to start anything hes just saying what he has heard. You guys are berating him... with this attitude who the hell would want to volunteer any info to us. No one said you have to believe the guy. Going to be comical if it turns out true lmao

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