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Does anyone feel the classes actually helped them pass?


I failed and studied my ass off and feel like half the things on the test were not covered in the classes? Might just be me but I feel like I wasted a lot of money.



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Rising stars is very good. It's the word for word patrol guide and it only included the duties of the Sgt and below. 



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I took Rising Star, didn't work for me. Trying to see if the classes helped for someone else because I don't know where to go next test. When I took the classes I was hoping to be in the 80s not failing by two point.

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NYM wrote:

I took Rising Star, didn't work for me. Trying to see if the classes helped for someone else because I don't know where to go next test. When I took the classes I was hoping to be in the 80s not failing by two point.


 Did you read the patrol guide ??



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Read the whole thing once, then read it a second time of important things I had highlighted. Every single ****ing packet, complaint reporting system, every LBB. Yes I read, and I'm very pissed off I spent hundreds of dollars and took a year away from my life to fail by two points and not feel prepared for the test.



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@NYM. Don't be disappointed I took the 2011 and got a 69. Took the messed up 2013 and got 65 and I left 18 questions blank. and passed this one.  For all 3 exams I kept taking the same classes. I knew the material I just kept making mistakes while answering the questions. Keep your head up. Look at what I went through 



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NYM wrote:

Read the whole thing once, then read it a second time of important things I had highlighted. Every single ****ing packet, complaint reporting system, every LBB. Yes I read, and I'm very pissed off I spent hundreds of dollars and took a year away from my life to fail by two points and not feel prepared for the test.



-- Edited by NYM on Tuesday 11th of April 2017 06:08:02 PM


 You might still be able to pass with 68. 

Remember, the classes are a supplement NOT a guaranteed to pass trick"



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I read the PG religiously probably went through the whole book 3 times... and 207 and 221 about 6 times .. read the packets like crazy last month was doing 150-200 questions a day plus the ELF and KEY (app) when I had time... I think they helped a lot and I scored pretty well only missed 4/85 on tech knowledge so I think for Lieut I will do the same thing I did for this one but if rising star is live I'll go to those as well

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Had material from all 3 scored a 88 with extra points probably going to be 91 range. Honest opinion felt Key info was slightly better than elite however, Rising star was again #1 in preparing me for this exam. Elite was fine just never liked his whole rating system of chapters and always thought Yano was a bit arrogant.

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The highway question that had a critical injury or whatever was notify Highway Collision Technician and not interview witness until Highway Collision Investigation Squad.

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I think its possible to pass this test without going to a class. the only things i found helpful from the prep courses is the weekly structure and the updated patrol guide. that's really all you are paying for. Going to class is not enough. i took yanosak for 2013 test and failed but mostly my own fault because i didnt study enough. this time around, i took elite again and passed. It's all about the time you put in and honestly i literally sacrificed all my RDO's since around sept/oct. It's disheartening because i studied a lot and even my grade doesn't reflect that. I read the elite packets but i also focused on the patrol guide which helped me a lot. if i had to do it all over again, id never read any packets because i found them to be a waste of time (only really helpful for reviewing the most important procedures towards the end) I did the key review cram (6 week course) and honestly i was a little disappointed with it. i'd go with elite if i ever decide to study for LT exam. I split rising star with a friend and while those questions are challenging, it gets overwhelming having too many study resources. SO i didnt get to use rising star nearly as much as i wanted to. I'm really glad i read the patrol guide but i'll never listen to any of their advice on prioritizing because after seeing this exam, anything is fair game. Next time, id really focus on those 1-2 star procedures. some of those questions i just happened to get lucky on



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I took elite and did his course online and never attended a live class, I downloaded the key app and got the packets from coworkers to use the questions, I read the patrol guide 1 time and only re-read elite packets after summer I re-watched all of the elite videos, Yanosik is awesome he dumbed all the material down making it easier to understand he is on point with all his material and has it updated instantly, I passed and got in the low 80s I still went on vacations and somewhat had a social life. I must say questions from the key are much better and rising star questions which I got in the last month are extreamly difficult which is a good thing!

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I only did key packets, no pg and I got an 81. All or almost all of the questions I did get wrong were in the packets. 



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I do feel that I owe rising star an apology somewhat. lol I thought their questions were too hard and it was really frustrating, but this really forced me to learn the damn material. In the end it wasnt pleasant but it did the job well.

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Nypd2010 I agree with everything you said 100 percent . That is good Intel for people to plan for the next test. Reading the patrol guide is king. Classes are a supplement to assist in planning and scheduling.

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I started reading mikes pg even before the test. I printed every procedures they ever tested the last ten years(actual job guide). I will do elite always. His material is the best. I did do keys cram course but never looked at their material which is flawed/not updated.

I did do RS questions but they were too tough which made me aggravated. I will do RS questions for LT in the future.

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I started reading mikes pg even before the test. I printed every procedures they ever tested the last ten years(actual job guide). I will do elite always. His material is the best. I did do keys cram course but never looked at their material which is flawed/not updated.

I did do RS questions but they were too tough which made me aggravated. I will do RS questions for LT in the future.


 Did RS have live classes for the sergeant exam? I don't think they did until the end. If they're going to have a live class next time then i will def take them again.



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I did the Key and got an 85. Went to every class and watched the videos of them too. Read through half the PG once before I switched to purely reading the packets. I did notice a few mistakes here and there, mostly on the rewrites, but I also know I wouldn't have passed without them.

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The classes give you structure and set a pace for your study habits, the real work is the hours upon hours a day one would have to put in to pass a promotional exam. You gotta want it and put the time in regardless of classes.

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The classes give you structure and set a pace for your study habits, the real work is the hours upon hours a day one would have to put in to pass a promotional exam. You gotta want it and put the time in regardless of classes.


 I passed and did well. I used rising star and Elite but would not have been able to do well if I didn't put the hours in and reading the guide.



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Hey I am a long time lurker but decided to post. I got a 72 and only studied the packets and elite classes (since Jan). Just read a handful procedures only if I didnt understand something in the packets. However I went to every class in person and also listened to his Mp3 class audio daily on my train ride. You start to remember through his repetition and examples lol Wish I had more time to actually read the whole patrol guide 1x.. I feel it would have helped me get higher



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As stated on a previous post, I got an 85.

I did read the Patrol guide once from front to back. Did Elite classes plus his review course. Never went to a class but saw all the videos. Did everything included with course, videos, questions, assessments and yes even the crosswords. While some people dont like his 5-star rating of procedures, they were pretty much spot on. Used Elite and Key app while on patrol.

Only other class I did was the RisingStar All Day cram. I definitely picked up 2-3 questions just because of that class for sure. Well worth the $60.

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Was the RS cram good? Some people got me to not go because they said RS didn't review anything.

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I didn't do great but I made the list ... i used elite . Never went to class and I didn't read 218 211 or 220.. however I did questions from all three .. I think rs questions would be better suited for a Lt or capt exam. I don't recommend the key . But again at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you take .. you need to put the work in. People from my command would go to every class and thought that was enough. Congrats to everyone that passed .. for all the guys with 69s I pray for you .

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I used the Key and made the list, but noticed a lot of outdated material while I was studying - especially towards the last few weeks with their cram packets. I thought their all day cram was a complete waste of time and money. But then again, without the Key I wouldn't have made the list.



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Aqfyn3st wrote:

Was the RS cram good? Some people got me to not go because they said RS didn't review anything.


 They were right, they didnt review anything. What they did was show you how you could easily be tricked. What examiners thought process is when writing a question and how one little word could completely change an answer.

The Prohibited Conduct and B CD question were perfect examples of that. Both of which I would have probably got wrong if I wasnt looking for the tricks.

I spent the last week before test doing every single RS packet question. In retrospect it was a waste since the test was so straight forward, but at the same time I would have been prepared if the test was difficult.

Elite gets you a 70, enough to get on list comfortably. RS prepares you for 80+.



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I used the Key and made the list, but noticed a lot of outdated material while I was studying - especially towards the last few weeks with their cram packets. I thought their all day cram was a complete waste of time and money. But then again, without the Key I wouldn't have made the list.



-- Edited by UrinalFly on Sunday 23rd of April 2017 09:48:09 AM


 The Key's all day cram was an absolute waste of time. Didn't even cover 221. They spent entirely way too long on 215 and ended there.



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I used the key only for the sgt test and passed. This Lt though I'm doing both the key and rising star. They both stress different procedures, which I like. It keeps the reading interesting. I alternate packets everyday. You definately need to read the patrol guide or just get rising star.

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Yea the classes definitely help you...especially rising star...with all the questions they provide


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I know I would not have passed just reading the vanilla pg. Elite was instrumental in my passing.


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