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Throw outs


From the inbasket do you believe there will be any throwouts? Please don't discuss any questions. Just numbers would be nice. 



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Im hoping so.

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I mean, it's hard to say because we can't discuss the questions here. I think it's ridiculous and only hurts us at the protest. The makeup is a different test.

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I could only speculate there may be ALOT of ppl said the in basket was very hard. Last time i heard dcas was trying to make this test straightforward. We shall see

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Do they give explainations on how to solve the inbasket, or do they just expect us to figure it out kn our own?

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From all the schools they said straight forward test and there will be no throw outs. Don't get me wrong the technical knowledge was fair. Tough but fair. Just that inbasket was so brutal.


What is ur prediction on throw outs on inbasket?

I believe maybe 1.

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how would the schools know if anything will be thrown out?


There were two questions that i think could have been thrown out because although the question was fair the procedure itself is contradictory. I reread the procedures several times. although I'm not sure how questions get thrown out, i have to assume if the procedure is bad to begin with one can argue that the question should be thrown out?

Apparently one question was missing a word in the question also?

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I mean, it's hard to say because we can't discuss the questions here. I think it's ridiculous and only hurts us at the protest. The makeup is a different test.


 Very true!! We could risk a weak protest by not being on the same page. 

We shouldn't be screwing ourselves or those on the verge of passing out of fear a few people may score some cheap points

anyone who is taking the make up has people feeding them test questions already



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Technicall knowledge I believer yes one question did have a word missing.

My main worries is the inbasket. Just hoping get some miracle on that inbasket.

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how would the schools know if anything will be thrown out?


There were two questions that i think could have been thrown out because although the question was fair the procedure itself is contradictory. I reread the procedures several times. although I'm not sure how questions get thrown out, i have to assume if the procedure is bad to begin with one can argue that the question should be thrown out?

Apparently one question was missing a word in the question also?


 Can you PM me the questions you're thinking of? 



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Well....we could email each other........ Pm each other. I have 2 bones to pick with Dcas!! Lol

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What two questions did you have NYFINE?

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How would you know who actually took the test and who is just pretending, trying to get an easy point ? Yea, I know it says different test but who is to say dcas won't recycle some questions

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If you guys want. We can all PM each other so we can be on the same page. Idk about you guys, but all the guys ive spoken to are so pissed off very few of them will protest anything. At the same time I understand why though. We dont want to accept it, but the realoty is the questions were fine. They were just very obscure and stuff we didnt focus on while studying. You cant protest that.

And yes, I remember the "which is most" question. Didnt say most correct or incorrect.

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Please be very careful about discussing questions on this forum and/or discussing questions through PM. Do not fall for the tricks. Why give someone an advantage that you did not have?

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Allegedly, there was also a "according to 212" instead of 221 question. They didnt list it as 221 even though it was moved.

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if the procedure was incorrectly stated that should be thrown out.. especially if they locked you into a question.

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Please be very careful about discussing questions on this forum and/or discussing questions through PM. Do not fall for the tricks. Why give someone an advantage that you did not have?


 The. Makeup. Is. A. Different. Exam.



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O **** i remember that question...the which is most one yea they should get rid of that at least.

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Sorry didnt meant to curse



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I don't want to post questions on here......pm if anything.

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All I care about is inbasket and throw outs

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We all know why we don't want to post questions bc we don't want the make-ups getting free points

dcas doesn't want us discussing questions bc we will be more prepared at the protest 



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If they give the scammers a different test they will sue

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FYI the different make up test starts with the LT test this summer. Not with this SGT test. Don't discuss questions with ANYONE. Make up test takers would lose a lawsuit if they brought it based on a different test. That has been the whole point of the research questions on these previous exams; to see if different yet similar questions would yield similar results. Obviously they do if they're going to be giving a different test to make up scammers.

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FYI the different make up test starts with the LT test this summer. Not with this SGT test. Don't discuss questions with ANYONE. Make up test takers would lose a lawsuit if they brought it based on a different test. That has been the whole point of the research questions on these previous exams; to see if different yet similar questions would yield similar results. Obviously they do if they're going to be giving a different test to make up scammers.


 No, actually, this make up is a different exam. Even if it wasn't, the number of scammers has dropped drastically with the Wednesday test. Hurting our protest just to MAYBE prevent easy points for a few people is self defeating.



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On top of us not being able to talk about it and be on the same page. They barred Mike Yanosik and The Key guys from ever taking the test because they would also find throwouts, so they purposely banned them for that



-- Edited by BlastLivesMatter on Saturday 25th of February 2017 09:31:27 PM

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yes we all need to b on the same page for this protest. I think maybe week after next we should all pm each other or maybe makeup something where we can all talk privately about what we are going to bring up.

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I'm actually willing to meet up in person before this protest To grab an extra point of two. 



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If you all insist on discussing questions at least wait until the makeup exam is given. Again, do not discuss questions or PM these people on this forum. Do not give anyone an unfair advantage. One or two points dosen't seem like a lot now but it will when you see how many names ahead of you a person can get with one more point than you. 



-- Edited by BossLady on Saturday 25th of February 2017 09:44:57 PM

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BossLady wrote:

If you all insist on discussing questions at least wait until the makeup exam is given. Again, do not discuss questions or PM these people on this forum. Do not give anyone an unfair advantage. One or two points dosen't seem like a lot now but it will when you see how many names ahead of you a person can get with one more point than you. 



-- Edited by BossLady on Saturday 25th of February 2017 09:44:57 PM


The make up might be after the protest. And your point is moot if we fail by a couple points that may have been given to us if we all brainstormed for the protest. I don't give a **** what my list number is, I just want to pass. This is going to be a small list anyway.



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Just realized Iab maybe all over this website after the issues from last test. They made us sign off that we would not discuss this test on such sites like this.


Point is we can continue to prep/study for the protest which is technically part of the testing process!!!!

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If what's being talked about in the other thread is true then this test is being tossed.
It appears that one of the test writers was in direct conflict of city laws by selling the questions on a now defunct website.

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Wtf are you serious

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I don't have any inside info. But the guy or gal who blew this case wide open (the blueline leaders fiasco) seems to be in the know and mentioned something about one of those sergeants writing the exam.
If confirmed then the test will def be tossed. He'll be collared but the test will be tossed.
It's too glaring of a conflict.

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Nobody should be discussing any questions on this forum period. Nobody should have an unfair advantage . I hope any post discussing the questions gets quickly deleted by the moderators.

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someone says the test is getting thrown out EVERY test...in 2013, it was because of rampant cheating ... its not getting thrown out

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Wth i really hope they dont do that alot of ppl i know took the time out and away from their families to study their butts of for the test. If they toss this test thats gunna be ANOTHER several months of studying that NOONE is gunna wanna do. I woud hope they would have another solution. Do you have any more concrete info??



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someone says the test is getting thrown out EVERY test...in 2013, it was because of rampant cheating ... its not getting thrown out


 In 2013 the cheaters were the exam takers. Here it's the exam writer who cheated. When a few people cheat it's unfair to toss the whole test but when the WHOLE system is compromised? IS this confirmed btw? If one of the test writers owned this school mark my words that your exam is getting thrown out. Sorry 



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this is sooo crazy wow......if anyone has more info please by all means share this. I really hope this isn't confirmed smh at this dept. soon they are going to stop giving test for promotions and instead test you another way.

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I doubt this is true. Just people spreading nonsense rumors.

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Not really a person from the Key has written  tests before they make you swear to secrecy



-- Edited by Terrystop on Sunday 26th of February 2017 02:18:39 PM

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Stop believing everything you see here. The guys who took this difficult exam should focus on some badly written questions so we can fight them. As the days go on it seems like more and more questions were a little messed up.

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EXACTLY.....tenfour is right

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Terrystop wrote:

Not really a person from the Key has written  tests before they make you swear to secrecy



-- Edited by Terrystop on Sunday 26th of February 2017 02:18:39 PM


 All the schools has/had someone who wrote test before. But they were not involved in making money off of the exam WHILE writing exam questions. You can write exams before or after but not during



-- Edited by Lieutenantorbust on Sunday 26th of February 2017 02:30:07 PM

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We need to start pooling our knowledge for this protest. It's harder to disregard multiple people protesting the same questions.

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prayingforapass70 wrote:

this is sooo crazy wow......if anyone has more info please by all means share this. I really hope this isn't confirmed smh at this dept. soon they are going to stop giving test for promotions and instead test you another way.


One thing I can say if it is true, the test will be thrown out. I will make sure of it. Also one of the "writers" is a 3 year cop, which means he may have been privy to test questions. S

Sarge, you better send that refund ASAP or im gonna create some serious waves.



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This is starting to get real interesting.

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If true then they are getting collared for grand larceny. How stupid can you get.

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WTF

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