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You guys are really out of control. Most of what you guys are saying is pure speculation. Just because someone took a makeup doesn't mean that they cheated. If everyone that took a makeup was a cheater or scammer, then none of the makeup testers would have failed. You're going so far as to say that military guys can ORDER themselves activated, etc..... absolutely nuts. Keep in mind that religious groups and military are both protected classes in OEEO. Some of you guys better be very careful of what you say and post. This all could be considered discrimination and a Log# could be dropped on everyone bashing those groups or posting derogatory information. I'd be very careful! IJS


You clearly didn't see the test.  I got a 72 raw score on this test on the original test day, which was the top 5% of all testers.  I studied more than anyone else I know and I'm not a stupid person.  I got a near perfect score on the SAT in high school.  I know that was a long time ago but I'm just trying to prove a point.  There is NO WAY someone could get a 90+ on this exam unless they are some kind of savant.  People on here know the people on this list, and we know that they are not savants.  The only other conclusion is that they either had answers, or at least a damn good idea of what they were walking into.  That was a HUGE advantage on a test where half the people I know who took it didn't even finish in the allotted time.

I'm not into witch hunting, and I'm not saying they're all cheaters, but we really do need some kind of reform for the testing practice.  I dropped 60 names on this list because of make up testers.  That's 3 classes, which is 6-9 months.  I don't mind people scoring higher than me and I'm happy to at least be on the list, but it really is frustrating that my promotion is delayed because others had such a significant advantage.



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At the end of the day, they are Lieutenants and with better pay and perks.  And we have to address them as Lieutenant.   We will pass the 2017 exam. That will be a huge list.



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Coptocapt----riddle me this. Are u the cop that went straight to capt??????? Yep. It is true. There is a military reservist who never spent a day in rank in sgt or lt because he would activate himself for years at time for some bs stateside mission, take makeup, come back for 5 days to get promoted in private ceremony at personnel, get activated again----take makeup-----does everyone see the trend. It's a fact. He even sued for back pay and won. Some may know who I talk of. So cop to cap-----the man who defends this scam every time he's on here------give it a rest. Yes-----cops can get orders for that specific wkend and show up and play place pool on base------come back Monday and take an exam 2-4 months later. That's a fact. And this time the masses got screwed and all this list is is the elite 128 and 76 scammers. And quite frankly------people are fed up. There is a wind of change coming cop to capt----u are a nay sayer. U may say I m a dreamer-----but I'm not the only one. Yes folks I am reborn and I see the revolution that is forming and it is time!!!!!!!! I said straight from the beginning the audacity and scum of these makeups and no one felt the scam but now it burns as it should. And people will make the stink that it should. I am proud of these guys----the city craps on us enough and in this time of constant crapping and low morale guys are pushing back!


 Ondeeair you have a great imagination, but the guy you are referring to isn't me.   I didn't get promoted in a private ceremony, nor did I deploy time after time to stateside missions.  I'm not defending anyone.... I'm just saying don't paint EVERYONE with the same brush.  Are there people  that took advantage of the flaws to the system? Absolutely.... It's been that way for decades..... And nothing will change... But dont for one second think you know me.  We can meet face to face in 1PP where you hide and I will show you who I am.  If you think you know me so well, post my name..... I don't care. Post my command or borough.... Once again you will see that your FACTS, once again,  are far from accurate! 



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At the end of the day, they are Lieutenants and with better pay and perks.  And we have to address them as Lieutenant.   We will pass the 2017 exam. That will be a huge list.


 At this point I'm just happy to be on the list. People here are nuts those guys will be LTs. the only reason I'm upset is because I didn't do it. 



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Coptocapt fair enuff. I was just making sure u weren't that guy. U know who I speak of. I agree. I am not grouping people, but the majority of military makeups this time was weekend drills. I'm sure ur a military man and I give u the upmost respect as the others. But don't u think they brought some shame by doing this to u all?

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ondeeair2321 wrote:

Coptocapt fair enuff. I was just making sure u weren't that guy. U know who I speak of. I agree. I am not grouping people, but the majority of military makeups this time was weekend drills. I'm sure ur a military man and I give u the upmost respect as the others. But don't u think they brought some shame by doing this to u all?


 Here's the real question on everyone's mind:

is the friendly neighborhood EDP, taking the next test?



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I highly doubt anything will change. This job and city rather go after whoever is voicing their opinion, then to go after anyone who may have had an unfair advantage. It's quite clear they have no desire to make things fair, from testing location, to test day surprises like no highlighters, to the notice being one big lie, to questions being asked on material after the cutoff date, we are at a severe disadvantage. The question remains why is this happening? I don't have that answer. But somewhere, one person or many have decided to make decisions that go against the very rules they are encompassed to uphold. To be honest I'm more interested in why they are doing this????



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lol. Su I had said definitely no but this possible feb 2017 exam the old man may try one last time. This changes everything as that list would be out probably in 6 months. My opinion this list is done by next summer. They are saying February but in recent history they have a habit of pushing it back once stated a month or two. We ll see. But the unit that starts the wheels on exam committee selections already have wheels turning. So it's coming.

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And yes guys----coptocapt is right. Nothing will change. But we can shame the job for their picking of a monster and right man beast Lt to write the exam and the amount of scammers who make up a large portion of the exam. They are out of the shadows now. We know who u are. And will deal w you the way we should.

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There are always Cheaters in these exams but this test was such a small sampling that the cheaters stuck out. In the pass years cheating was limited to snooping around and fishing for info from the forums and coworkers. This time there have been ALOT OF RUMORS of the test being peddled out by non-cops I expect arrests...Common sense would tell you to get a score that wouldn't raise red flags but we see how arrogant some people are.



-- Edited by wisecop on Saturday 20th of February 2016 06:09:26 PM

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Honestly i didn't think anyone would even touch a 90 on this test .....even if u took rising star , elite and the key and was an admin person.

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Honestly i didn't think anyone would even touch a 90 on this test .....even if u took rising star , elite and the key and was an admin person.


 a 90? Top score on this test was an 83 I think



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Odeeair should re-direct his anger away from the person who wrote this test, and go hunt for the scammers and those profiting from these make ups.

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The rumors of the test being peddled out by non cops could be investigated by the inspector general NYC DOI.
They oversee DCAS 212 825 5904

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This is NYPOST worthy.... Take the list with the asterisk and let one of these columnist do the heavy lifting...

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The rumors of the test being peddled out by non cops could be investigated by the inspector general NYC DOI.
They oversee DCAS 212 825 5904


 samian, I'm not following. What are you talking about?



-- Edited by bigfoot45 on Saturday 20th of February 2016 07:01:10 PM

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Keep digging fellas. U will uncover some "strange coincidences". Like how multiple guys on this exam in the same reserve unit are at the same score or fractions of a point difference. How a coast guard unit in the metro NYC area has multiple guys in the top 50. Two with basically same score in top 10, fractions of points difference. how multiple sabbath observers are fractions of a point different in groupings. Hmmmmmm. Group study? Or insider intel? I'm seeing a lot of coincidences folks. or maybe the army nat'l guard unit that has 7 makeups and 7 passers all within 8 points of each other??? Maybe it's me or I need to join these reserve units or sabbath observer study groups----looks like a guaranteed 80+. 



-- Edited by ondeeair2321 on Saturday 20th of February 2016 07:08:59 PM



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-- Edited by Slate on Saturday 20th of February 2016 08:40:52 PM



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i thought it was only 7 of top top 10---it is 9 of 10 of the top 10 are makeups. 23 of the top 30 are makeups. 29 of the top 50 are makeups. you guys dont have all your asterisks up. things are not what they seem. i ve said this from beginning.

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Amazing integrity issues. Number 26 was never seen opening up a book even after the six months after he had before he took the test december. Amazing!!!!!!!!!. Asking people , Unbelievable shame shame zocchia. 



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Shame !! Shame !! Shame !!

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Number 50 took the test with the rest of us and is probably smarter then just about all of us.  Remove the scarlet letter.  This can't happen again.  



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#50 took it on the original date, whoever made this list, you can verify with skiguy or Johnybigtime. Don't go judging based on last names

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#50 took it on the original date, whoever made this list, you can verify with skiguy or Johnybigtime. Don't go judging based on last names


 I can say with absolute 100% certainty that #50 took it on original date.  Not only did I stand in line and go in to the test with #50, but I also went to the original date protest session with him.  Johnnybigtime can verify this as well.  



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Wouldn't it be more accurate to do the foil request email to get the dates everyone took the test officially from DCAS?

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Yes it would..that's why I provided it...I just don't know how much info they can/are willing to give you. But do try!

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I agree guys. U can only shame someone if u know it for fact. after all it is someone's reputation. not all military, Jewish, or whoever scams. Let's keep this focused on those that did. This isn't about getting a system changed, cause it won't. It's laws of civil service. It's been going on for years!!! its about identifying who in our ranks or now above our rank is a one way step on your neck will do anything to get ahead loser. They couldn't pass the exam the fair way, that's apparent. Their lack of confidence in their mental capabilities shows this in the scam they thought they had To pull To pass. Let's remember that. And deal with them in accordance. Loophole Lt is a perfect moniker. And btw----logs go no where. Multiples were dropped by a certain someone who created this monster exam. No one is doing anything illegal on this site. 



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Hey Bigfoot read wisecops post above mine. 



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50 isn't asterisked, that's tkny's list.

Thanks for the info, Nikki won't asterisk him, we need to all work together to make sure people aren't falsely accused while making sure we get an accurate list of the 76 makeups.

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Hey Bigfoot read wisecops post above mine. 


 You guys are saying the schools sold off copies of the exam to makeup test takers? 



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Hey Bigfoot read wisecops post above mine. 


 You guys are saying the schools sold off copies of the exam to makeup test takers? 


 Actually you just said it.



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Hey Bigfoot read wisecops post above mine. 


 You guys are saying the schools sold off copies of the exam to makeup test takers? 


 Actually you just said it.


I'm reading between the lines... If that's the case and someone has real proof they should step up.

 



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Bigfoot I get the impression you're not too vested in any of this, you're more into asking ackward rhetorical questions....very strange....

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Bigfoot I get the impression you're not too vested in any of this, you're more into asking ackward rhetorical questions....very strange....


 Wise cop.. you seem to be the one beating around the bush.  I'm trying to solve your riddle.  I'm more curious then most.  Again, didn't I just call for someone to step up with real proof?  If you have something on your chest say it.



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Hey Bigfoot read wisecops post above mine. 


 You guys are saying the schools sold off copies of the exam to makeup test takers? 


 Actually you just said it.


I'm reading between the lines... If that's the case and someone has real proof they should step up.

 


 I read both my comments and samiam, no where between the lines did we... cause your Freudian slip.



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Bigfoot I get the impression you're not too vested in any of this, you're more into asking ackward rhetorical questions....very strange....


 Wise cop.. you seem to be the one beating around the bush.  I'm trying to solve your riddle.  I'm more curious then most.  Again, didn't I just call for someone to step up with real proof?  If you have something on your chest say it.



-- Edited by bigfoot45 on Saturday 20th of February 2016 09:34:53 PM


 I said what was on my chest, that you're more into questioning and less about solutions like you just didd again.  But anyways...



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Odeeair should re-direct his anger away from the person who wrote this test, and go hunt for the scammers and those profiting from these make ups.

 

Ok, so scammers profit by getting promoted.  Who are the others that profit from makeup tests?  Or did I read into this too much?  

 



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Wise cop, if you have read any of my postings you should know I'm greatly annoyed with this system.  Ishredmajors and I are in the same boat.  Our promotions will be delayed for months because of this



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This is what wisecop wrote:


There are always Cheaters in these exams but this test was such a small sampling that the cheaters stuck out.

In the pass years cheating was limited to snooping around and fishing for info from the forums and coworkers.

This time there have been ALOT OF RUMORS of the test being peddled out by non-cops I expect arrests...

Common sense would tell you to get a score that wouldn't raise red flags but we see how arrogant some people are.



-- Edited by wisecop on Saturday 20th of February 2016 06:09:26 PM


My comment regarding DOI is based on this statement. If I misunderstood something you typed my apologies BUT this is what my statement was based on.

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Oh, I get you, you don't know that 'profit' also means " to gain a benefit." Its okay to learn something everyday.

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This is what wisecop wrote:


There are always Cheaters in these exams but this test was such a small sampling that the cheaters stuck out.

In the pass years cheating was limited to snooping around and fishing for info from the forums and coworkers.

This time there have been ALOT OF RUMORS of the test being peddled out by non-cops I expect arrests...

Common sense would tell you to get a score that wouldn't raise red flags but we see how arrogant some people are.



-- Edited by wisecop on Saturday 20th of February 2016 06:09:26 PM


My comment regarding DOI is based on this statement. If I misunderstood something you typed my apologies BUT this is what my statement was based on.


 No need to apologize you were posting info to help,

not asking nervous questions like some wired up informant.



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Makeup exam takers score 70s on 2011 Sgt test but 90s on 2015 lts exam??? Something really funny is going on.

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It's a well known 'secret' that at least one of these scammers was fed questions from a school instructor. There were GOs in regards to these individuals last time around and there will be again. The men in black will be knocking on a few doors in the coming weeks. These investigations will go nowhere, of course, but watch where they go and who they visit and then connect the dots for yourselves.

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Sh@t that's a secret I never knew. Smh. Madness

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Wisecop, im not going to argue anymore with you and your BS.  I'll leave it at that. 



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#50 is typo. Relax! down to 40. Let Nikki update the rest. 



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The men in black???!! Lol. There are IAB rats that played the system. The integrity beholders!!!! Yeah----the job is on the level. Nothing will come of anything. Even if schools did give the answers. Nothing ever does. However. Like I said-----it's up to you all to not forget just who did this scam. That's the real part of this that gets these people. Never forget.

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#50 is typo. Relax! down to 40. Let Nikki update the rest. 


Thanks for the help.



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